Pensieve/objectivity (was:Looks aren't everything!)
bookraptor11
DMCourt11 at cs.com
Tue Dec 9 05:15:15 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 86779
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> Carol:
> Actually, the memory is not revealed from Snape's point of view.
Harry
> is not inside Snape's head, as he's inside Snake/Voldemort's in his
> dream of trying to kill Arthur Weasley. He sees Snape from the
> outside, sitting at his desk writing with his nose almost pressed
> against the parchment and again, hanging upside down with the
> Marauders laughing and taunting him. Similarly, when he's inside
> Dumbldore's memories, he sees Dumbledore himself (and sits beside
> him). He himself is actually inside the memory of the event just as
it
> happened. In other words, a Pensieve memory is much more objective
> than a normal Muggle memory, which is necessarily subjective and
> incomplete because we remember only what we perceived, distorted by
> our own interpretation of the events. There is no interpretation in
> the Pensieve memory itself. It's only what was actually said and
done
> from the viewpoint of a nonparticipant onlooker. Any interpretation
> must be done by the onlooker, that is, Harry, not by the objectively
> rendered event itself.
>
> Carol, who hopes this is clear and is glad that you're learning to
> like Snape
Donna
Since a Pensieve memory is much more objective, I wonder if that's
the main reason Dumbledore keeps one. He tells Harry in GOF that it
helps when he has so many thoughts and memories crammed in his mind,
and a few paragraphs later that it helps him spot patterns and links
(GOF p.597 paperback). What he doesn't tell Harry is that the
objectivity helps him to see things as they really happened, not
filtered through his perceptions and prejudices, making those
patterns and links more accurate.
I wonder if Snape has used a Pensieve before, not just because of
Harry's occlumency lessons. Perhaps Dumbledore lent him one so he
could sort out his bad memories, seperate what's true from how he
remembers it. Unfortunately I have a sad picture of Snape watching
the scene Harry saw (and similar ones) over and over, feeding his
anger, telling himself, "it's not just my viewpoint, they really were
*total* bastards!"
Donna
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