Pensieve objectivity (was : Looks aren't everything!)

M.Clifford valkyrievixen at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 10 08:53:33 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 86869

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford"
> <valkyrievixen at y...> wrote:

Hi Carol, Thanks for the reply.


> Carol:
> As I mentioned before, Harry is *outside* the action as a silent 
and invisible witness, seeing not only James, Sirius, Remus, and 
Lily but Snape himself from the outside. He is *not* inside Snape's 
mind, seeing from his perspective or feeling his emotions. Is his 
stomach tied in knots as he rushes to get all he knows onto that 
DADA exam? 

Valky:
Two things 
1. EXCELLLENT question. I am afraid there is only one verrrry weak 
slice of canon that could, subjected to much interpretation, hold up 
as a response. The sound of Flitwick's tiny squeaky voice 
calling "five more minutes" made Harry jump. Don't you find that all 
a little slightly odd? I mean minus the possible intense feeling of 
urgency I am proposing Harry was experiencing, could Flitwick have 
made him so much as twitch? 
By the way. I acknowledge it is weak and hardly an objective 
argument, haha but hey thats all there is. So as I said before 
Excellent question.

2. I agree he is not inside Snapes head. He is *inside* the pensieve.
As well as *inside* the memory. I can only 100% agree that one is 
outside the emotions of the memory if he is observing it from 
outside of the pensieve which, in this case, he is not.



Carol:
 Is he humiliated and enraged as he's
> hung upside down? 

Ok you are arguing really well. I can only offer extremely weak 
canon that has more than one possible meaning to respond to it. But 
thanks very much for the chat.
Valky





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