Are Malfoy and Fudge the real masterminds? wasDid voldemort mean to allow

[iris_ft]

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Hi all, here are two Knuts.
Mandy wrote:

 The only problem with this theory is it renders Voldemort redundant.
 And if Voldemort is redundant so is Harry Potter and then we have
no reason for the books in the first place. ;-) Also having Lucius in
 jail allows Draco to step up to the plate and slip into his daddy's
 shoes. Which I really do want to see.

Mandy, who is loving the idea that Lucius Malfoy is the mastermind
behind the whole DoM incident.

And Jen replied:
"Jen R: Not redundant....just...compromised for the moment! And
definitely just for this moment only. If Lucius and Fudge are in
cahoots, I suspect they will be in for a nasty surprise soon because
the real story IS Harry and Voldemort.

Lucius and Fudge may be trying to manipulate the situation to their
advantage, but they don't have the proper 'feeling' behind their
motives. Like the feeling required to cast an Unforgiveable, the
Order and LV/DE's both have a much stronger and broader motivation
behind their movements than merely personal gain--they both have a
vision for the Transformation of the WW, even though their
philosophies are polar-opposite.

So, just as Harry can't cast an Unforgiveable, "You need to *mean*
them, Potter!", Lucius and Fudge won't be able to sustain their
conspiracy. They'll either undermine each other internally, or
the "real" players will discover (or already know) the subterfuge at
work. So Lucius and Fudge definitely aren't the Masterminds IMO,
but they are definitely trying to work this to their advantage and
they will PAY!!!"

No me:
Well, maybe Fudge believes Malfoy is his ally, but I'm quite sure 
that in Malfoy's mind, Fudge is only an instrument he manipulates to 
serve his own interest. A guy with such a name (Malfoy, in old 
French, can mean "false-heart", "treachery") can't be trusted. 
Malfoy is serving only one interest: his own interest.

And Fudge is more than "a compliant Minister", to take Mandy's 
words. He thinks that he is powerful because he has Malfoy's 
support. In fact, he's his client. He begs his advice just like he 
used to do with Dumbledore in the first book. He doesn't realise 
that he is just a toy in Malfoy's hands. He doesn't realise that he 
is cheated. He's coward, he feels menaced and Malfoy is there to 
support him. He's full of himself, and Malfoy is there to flatter 
him. He needs money to settle his power, and Malfoy is there to give 
him Galleons. Cher monsieur Malfoy, indispensable mister Malfoy. 
This is a very intelligent man. Malfoy's character may root in "The 
Prince" by Machiavelli. He also acts the same way the Mephistopheles 
in Faust (after all, his first name is Lucius, it's not very far 
from Lucifer). He has no friend but himself. But I think he wouldn't 
try to pull a fast one on Voldemort. Mephistopheles is only a 
faithful servant; he's not the master. 

Nevertheless, it would be interesting if Mandy's theory was 
confirmed in the next books, then we could say that Malfoy is even 
darker than Voldemort. Voldemort wants power and uses  it openly, in 
a dictatorial way. Malfoy remains hidden and manipulates Fudge. He 
never acts directly, he lets Fudge (and Voldemort?) do the dirty 
job, so there' no reason why he should be blamed before the DoM 
incident. He's free to do whatever he wants; he does it without 
assuming any public responsibility. He's a kind of Godfather (not in 
Sirius's way; rather in a Corleone's way). He has his clients.
As for his interest for Hogwarts, well, it shows that he perfectly 
knows what to do if he wants to rule the WW for a long time. If you 
want to rule a society, first control education. And this rotten guy 
seems to be until a certain point really provident.
But Lucius is in jail because he was at the MoM with Voldemort. I'd 
really enjoy it if he happened to be the "Organ Grinder". But in 
that case, his behaviour would be incoherent. Why did he follow 
Voldemort when it could put him into trouble? Or is it part of a 
twisted plan? I'm unable to answer myself.
Concerning Draco, I don't know whether he has his father's calibre, 
and is really able "to slip in his shoes", to take another time 
Mandy's words. He's twisted minded, but he doesn't seem to be so 
refined in treachery. I would say that he is too noisy (he's always 
speaking in a rude way, for example) and too noticeable (as a 
prefect, he bullies the first years, for instance) to be as 
efficient as Lucius, if Lucius is really what we think (hope?) he is.

Mandy:
> I am very confused with my own thought right now and need to think 
on this some more.

Me: I know what it is!

Amicalement,

Iris