Parelles and why was the WW seduced? Was: Re: Lucius fears Voldemort

[ghinghapuss]

No: HPFGUIDX 86984

> Sophierom wrote:
> The analogy to Nazy Germany is an interesting one, and there are 
> many parallels, And even Lucius, who, as Jen argues convincingly, 
is not a fanatic, could fit into this analogy. The question is, how? 
Is he one of the German military men who went along for the ride, 
hoping for glory and power, but somewhere along the way realized that 
the leader was making poor strategy decisions (Stalingrad=DoM raid)? 
Or is he Stalin, who made a deal with Hitler in the early part of the 
war but when betrayed, formed an uneasy alliance with the opposing 
side? 

Mandy here:
I've mentioned in past posts there are similarities between Lucius 
Malfoy and Oswald Mosley, the British Fascist who supported Hitler.  
If Hitler had won the war no doubt Mosley would have been in a 
position to take over and control Britain. Whether this was Mosley's 
goal I don't know.  

Also mentioned in post 78554 and 78558 the Black sisters are a 
parallel to the Mitford Sisters.  Narcissa = Diana Mitford Mosley 
(blond, beautiful and married to Oswald), Bella=Unity Mitford (the 
fanatical fascist), Andromica = Jessica Mitford (the socialist who 
dreamed of assassinating Hitler).


Sophierom wrote:
> Another interesting question raised by this analogy to Nazi Germany 
> is, why would the WW be so seduced by LV in the first place? Hitler 
> played to German anxieties after WWI; what anxieties existed in the 
> WW to allow LV to gain so many followers? Did Grindelwald's fall 
> just previous to LVI  have anything to do with it? Or is 
Grindelwald unrelated to LV's rise? 


Mandy again: 
Very interesting point.  I was thinking there could have been a 
strained relationship with the muggle world.  In our world the 
persecution of pagan and nature based religions has been strong since 
the birth of Christianity 2000 years ago.  Ofcourse the Harryverse is 
a separate entity but judging how the Dursleys consider the WW it 
wouldn't surprise me if more muggles would feel that strongly against 
Witches/Wizards if they knew of their existence.  Fear of the 
unexplained, magic is most certainly unexplained, is a powerful force.

Most Witches/Wizards seem to be tolerant of the Muggle world but look 
down on muggles as being 'less' somehow, lacking in ability.  Even 
the word `muggle' suggests confused and lost.  Yet the Muggle world 
is far larger and in respect more powerful than the WW.  After all 
the WW has gone into hiding for its own survival. Has it not? This 
seems to me similar to the pe-WWII German fear of the Jews who they 
considered less important but had enormous power, financially and 
strength in their commitment to their religion. 

Even the kind and tolerant Weasleys seem to me treat muggles with a 
certain amount of distain.  Looking down on the poor dears because 
they have to do everything the hard way.  I imagine most 
Witches/Wizards feel that way and it wouldn't be hard for a Wizard 
like LV to play on those feelings and fears.  After all what self-
respecting Witch or Wizard would want a Muggle in charge? 

Mandy