Harry and the Veil

Diana dianasdolls at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 22 13:15:08 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 87446


> Steve wrote: (snipping fore and aft)
> 
> >Harry and Voldemort walk through the Veil. Voldemort is 
immediately
> >set upon by the people he has killed. Harry on the other hand is 
met
> >by James, Lily, and Sirius who are very happy to see him, but 
tell him
> >he can not stay. Although Harry resists at first, they convince 
him
> >that it is not his time, and he has a long, valuable, and 
rewarding
> >life that must be lived out. They also remind him of all the 
people
> >who love him, who are waiting for him in the mortal world. The 
sounds
> >of the lamentations of his beloved friends convinces Harry that he
> >must go back.
> >
> >Much to the surprise of everyone, Harry, the first person in 
history
> >to ever do so, emerges from behind the Veil. Que the swelling 
music,
> >hugs all around, jubilation and celebration, fade to black.

Nicholas wrote:
> Ever since the Veil made its appearance in OoP, I have thought 
that at some
> stage Harry will go through it, possibly in ensuring that 
Voldemort goes.
> Then, either your scenario will kick in, or there will be Deep 
Magic From
> Before The Dawn Of Time (ok, ok, I know that's not JKR) which says 
that if
> someone goes through the Veil Voluntarily and for a Great Cause, 
then he
> can come back.
> 
> Or Harry may go through after certain preparations...remember what 
Snape
> said he could do with his potions in PS/SS ...'even stopper 
death'. I've
> often wondered about that.
> 
> Another possible scenario; to conquer Voldemort, Harry needs 
certain
> information which only Sirius/James and Lily/Dumbledore if he 
dies/ has.
> Harry will take Sirius's mirror with him in order to get the info 
back to
> the other side and we all expect him to stay Dead...but the Deep 
Magic
> scenario then kicks in and he does come back after all.
 
> who doesn't think Harry will be dead at the end.

Diana L. writes:
 
    I doubt the veil will ever make another actual appearance in the 
books.  I'm sure there will be a few mentions, but don't think that 
Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny, Neville or Luna will ever visit the 
veil of death room again.  I could be completely wrong, of course, 
but that's the hazzard of writing down my gut feelings in a post...  
    The veil is obviously a dangerous object that allows a person to 
unwittingly fall into death, a la Sirius.  I can see Dumbledore 
keeping Harry as far away from that archway as possible.  I can't 
even see him thinking of allowing Harry to lure Voldemort through 
the archway. Dumbledore had refused to kill Harry in order to kill 
Voldemort at the end of OoP, remember.  Harry means too much to 
Dumbledore - not only as the prophecied saviour of the WW, but as a 
boy that Dumbledore loves as if he were his own grandson.  
    The "put a stopper in death" quote that Snape spouts in the 
first book however is a different story.  The mention of a sleeping 
potion so powerful that it is called the Draught of Death has me 
wondering if just such a potion will come into play.  If it does 
appear again, it seems likely that the potion will be used to 'kill' 
Harry and then allow for him to be revived after defeating Voldemort 
in some way.  Snape mentions it as a skill he could teach them, so 
we know he knows how to make it, too.  Can a happy-ending-this-time 
Romeo and Juliet ending be in the offing?  Or, I hope not, a regular 
tragic-ending Romeo and Juliet style ending be in the cards for 
Harry and one/all of his friends?  I can't see JKR copying such a 
well-known tragic ending though, so I must happily reject the latter 
proposal as soon as I type it.  
    I know that if Harry dies in the end I'm going to cry buckets.  
And if he 'pretend' dies (and JKR doesn't tell the readers!) and 
then is ressurected by means of that potion, then I'm still going to 
cry buckets, but I won't throw the book across the room.  <g>

Diana L. (also hoping and daring to believe Harry won't die in the 
end)

  





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