Fidelius swap was Re: The Sorting Hat
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Mon Dec 22 22:02:33 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 87464
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> wrote:
>
> I think Sirius considered himself the match of Voldemort in
> cleverness and far more clever than the Death Eaters. I'm sure
> Sirius considered himself quite clever enough to elude the
> Death Eaters for as long as necessary, IMO, and he might well
> have been right about that. After all, he eluded the far more
> numerous aurors for two whole years, and they were no nearer
> catching him when he died.
>
Kneasy:
Back to my old game of trying to get the Siriophiles to see the light.
Recall that in this hypothetical case Voldy and his hench-whatsits
would have been concentrating on Sirius, probably to the exclusion
of everything else. Top priority stuff. Recall that at this time the DEs
were about at full strength and were getting a lot of co-operation
in the WW, be it willing or unwilling. Voldy was in his pomp; he
seemed to be winning. Moody and a few other Aurors were able to
catch or kill a few, but the real harvest didn't happen until after
Godrics Hollow.
Sirius is entrusted with the duties of Secret Keeper. Only he can
tell people how to contact the Potters. He then passes this duty
over to Peter. Who knows? Sirius, Peter and presumably James.
If anyone from the Order wants to contact the Potters who will
they look for? Sirius. So far as anyone is aware he is still the link
man. He vanishes into hiding. What then? Concern throughout
the Order. What has happened to Sirius? Has Voldy got him? How
can we save the Potters? Is it too late? Peter would have to publicise
the fact that he is now the Secret Keeper to allay all the fears -
thus defeating the object of the enterprise. No wishful thinking
that DD would know everything, please; that's a cop out.
It's a bloody awful plan when viewed coldly. OK, it works as a
plot device because Peter is a traitor, though I think there's
more to come on the Godrics Hollow affair. But the whole idea
is just about up to (down to?) Sirius' standard. Ill thought out,
consequences not considered and guess what? Sirius ends up
centre stage. Oh, what bravery! What self-sacrifice! Cobblers.
Sirius may consider himself as an equal to Voldy - no-one else
would. He thinks he's smart, but instead he's too clever by half.
A disaster waiting to happen.
Pippin:
> Any spy who is close to Dumbledore would have to be an
> Occlumens to be successful. If Dumbledore ever believed that
> Sirius was the spy, he must have thought him capable of
> Occlumency, at least.
>
Kneasy:
Not certain of your point here. Did DD consider Sirius to be a spy?
Ever? I don't believe so. He did perhaps believe that Sirius was
a murderer (13 muggles and Peter) and that's why he never
intervened when Sirius was sent to Azkaban.
No, I think DD knew damned well who the spy was - and
deliberately did nothing. He needed Weapon!Harry to be
created as per the Prophesy. Just in case there was Voldy -The
Return. If he'd even suspected that Sirius had been the spy would
he have allowed him to go anywhere near Harry immediately
after James and Lily were killed? Unlikely.
DD was playing his cards close to his chest - again.
Pippin:
> Listen to the Centaurs, Kneasy. Sirius died because he was
> *innocent*. The villains die in the last ditch, because there's no
> story without them.
>
Kneasy:
I don't wholly trust the Centaurs either - or rather I won't take
their words at face value. Too obscure and mystic to be certain
of exactly what they mean when they spout their high-flown
phrases.
Straight from the horse's mouth it isn't.
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