Harry in NEWT Potions Class? (Was: Is Snape confident?)

[Blair]

No: HPFGUIDX 87661

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Fred Waldrop" 
<fredwaldrop at y...> wrote:
>I don't know, if Snape would have came out to the forest 
> to let Harry know that Sirius was OK, Harry would not have went to 
> the MOM. But Snape was in the school probably thinking "hahaha, you 
> don't know if your godfather is alive or dead, and that is fine by 
> me, you filthy little...." So, in a way it is Snape's fault. If he 
> would have gone and told Harry that Sirius was home and OK, Sirius 
> would still be alive.

Right, I missed the bulletin that said Severus was the Devil...must 
look for it later.  
Didn't Dumbledore go in the Forest?  After Severus alerted everyone, 
do we know that Dumbledore didn't tell him to stay inside the 
school?  By the time Severus was able to alert everyone, would Harry 
and Co. still have been in the Forest?  How would Severus have found 
them anyway?  And more importantly, would Harry have believed Severus?

> For what? Doing his job? 
> Tell me "mommystery2003", wouldn't you think it IS the teachers 
jobs 
> to protect the students as much as possible? I do.
> But according to yo, it is up to the 11 year old children to look 
> after themself.
> Luckily, Harry and company is pretty good at doing just that, isn't 
> it?

It is Severus' job to protect Harry, or is it him trying to repay his 
life debt?  I don't expect any of my teachers to take a bullet for 
me.  It's their job to do as much as possible, but I also think an 
apology would be nice.
 
> Fred again: In what way is Harry spoilted and conceited? I have 
> always wanted someone to explain this to me.
> Fred again:He is fighting a war. He has to break some rules to win. 
> When he is caught, he is punished like everyone else.

Actually, the only time I can remember Harry being fairly punished is 
in his first year.  (Umbridge punished everyone!)  But Harry isn't 
supposed to be fighting the war!  At the beginning of OoP, Harry says 
he wants to join and they tell him no!  Harry is *NOT* supposed to be 
fighting!

> Fred again: And what punishment did Snape get for being where he 
was, 
> out of school, out of bounds, and in the presents of a werewolf?
> Everyone keeps talking like it is Blacks fault for Snape almost 
> becomeing Kibbles and Bitts(dogfood), but it was Snapes own faught. 
> Was he suppost to be out of the school after dark? NO! Was he 
suppost 
> to be around the Wamping Willow? NO! Hell, he wasn't even suppost 
to 
> be out of his dorm after hours.
> So, how is it James or Sirious fault for Snape getting into the 
teeth 
> of a werewolf? It wasn't!!! If Snape would have minded his own 
> business, and possible used the time he was wasting on spying on 
MWPP 
> and washed his hair, maybe he would not have been disliked as much.

Wow.  Blame the victim.  That's real nice.  Pick on his appearance.  
Oh, that's cool too.  Were James and Sirius supposed to be out of 
their dorm after hours?  NO!  But no one blames them, do they?  Of 
course not.  They're Gryffindors.  How many punishments could be 
worse than almost getting eaten by a werewolf I wonder.  There are 
very few situations where one side is entirely to blame.  Severus is 
to blame, but Sirius is too!  I know if my greatest enemies who 
tortured me, made my life a living hell, and turned me upside down in 
front of the whole school were doing something wrong, you can bet 
that I'd be going after them!  It's Sirius' fault because the story 
goes that he led them there.  Until I hear otherwise, he's to blame.  
Not totally, but partially.

> When will everyone understand that SNAPE is the ADULT and HARRY is 
> the CHILD. 

I think I'll figure that out when I decide that Harry is a child.  I 
said, many posts ago, that I don't think the Trio are children 
anymore.

> Of course, I understand, the Snape lovers feel that Snape 
> had a bad childhood and Harry had such a wonderful childhood, so 
> Harry should just buck up and do what needs to be done and lick 
> Snapes boots and, and, and......

You know, you don't have to be an ass about it.  I'm a little 
offended by that, actually.  Do you think I'm stupid?  (I'm only 
saying "I" because I don't wanna speak for anyone else and put words 
in their mouth.)  I don't remember anyone suggesting that Harry "lick 
Snapes boots" (as you so eloquently put it).  I think the suggestion 
was Harry thank him and leave it at that.  No one ever said that 
Harry had a wonderful childhood, so I think you should stop putting 
words in other people's mouths thankyouverymuch.

> There is nothing Harry could do, except kill Snape, which would 
make 
> Harry's life much, much better, that would make Snape get off 
Harry's 
> back.

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire life 
(and I go to public school in the United States!).  I think you were 
really harsh.  Killing Snape?  Haven't there been a billion posts on 
how Harry could never turn into a killer, and you're suggesting that 
Harry kill a member of the Order.  That's nice.

Oryomai