Harry in NEWT Potions Class? (Was: Is Snape confident?)

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No: HPFGUIDX 87670

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Blair" <SnapesSlytherin at a...> 
wrote:
> I don't think it's fair to ask someone to just "get over" 
something.  
> Different people hold grudges for different lengths of time.  I 
> thought that when Severus was first teaching Harry Occulmency and 
he 
> yelled about weak people not being able to control their emotions, 
he 
> was speaking from personal experience.  "Emotion, agitation or 
> disturbance of the mind...Vehement or excited mental state.  It is 
> also a powerful and irrational master."  No one can control their 
> emotions.
> 
> I think most of the blame for Sirius' death lies with Dumbledore.  
I 
> see where Harry's fault lies.  But where does Severus'?  I'm not 
> being a jerk, I just don't entirely understand how it's his fault.  
> When Harry told him that the Death Eaters had Sirius, Severus went 
> off and alerted the Order, told them where to go, and *asked Sirius 
> to stay behind* (well, I'm sure he didn't ask.  I'm sure it was 
> something nasty, but still).  What exactly did Severus do?
>

No, it is usually not fair to ask someone just to get over something 
and that is why you get no argument from me on the  fact that if I 
were to apportion blame for Sirius' death, Dumbledore will take a 
large lead on my list. He should have not asked Snape to teach Harry 
occlumency, but ... he did.
At the times of war, I think it is fair to expect from the adult to 
get over his old wounds, when teaching the child, who is Light's best 
chance to win this war.

When I was talking about Severus' blame in Sirius' death I only meant 
his refusal to continue lessons.

I just think that Harry is very last person to blame for Sirius 
death, even though he sure  could be blamed a little bit, but all 
adults in the Order should be put higher on such list.

> Severus really shouldn't abused Harry and Neville like he does.  
But 
> someone has to stick up for him!  You're much more likely to find a 
> billion people who hate Severus Snape than you are to find a bunch 
of 
> people who hate Hagrid (I really really really really hate 
him!!!!).  
> But there are people like Severus in the world outside Hogwarts.  I 
> can comprehend why he harasses Harry like he does, but I'm still 
> completely in the dark about why he does it to Neville as well.
> 
> My defense of Severus is mostly a case of overlooking a person's 
> flaws.  The majority of this list does it about their favorite 
> characters.  I mean, Remus just sat by while James and Sirius 
> harasses Severus.  It's not the general consensus of the list that 
he 
> is a horrible human being.  Hermione called Firenze a horse.  She's 
> not obviously a wretched woman.  It's not accepted that Sirius is a 
> bad guy because he confuses James with Harry.  And Malfoy...well, 
> that's a bad example.  Forget I mentioned him.  :-D
> 
> Oryomai

Thank you! That is all I wanted to hear from you - that Snape should 
not have done what he does. I am not asking you to stop defending 
your favourite at all. :o)
I am just asking you to acknowledge the blame, where it is due. :)
You don't have to justify anything to me, but no matter how 
passionate we get, I would give more respect to the argument, which 
defends the character without sugarcoating his faults.

By the way, I don't hate hagrid, but I absolutely don't care for 
him. :o)

Thanks for the conversation and I hope you'll feel better. I am going 
to bed.
Alla