Harry in NEWT Potions Class? Snape against both Voldie and Dumbly.

Berit Jakobsen belijako at online.no
Tue Dec 30 09:34:51 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 87776

Fred wrote:

> And just like you mentioned "There are several times in his memory 
> that Snape has recorded events that he could not possibly have 
seen. 
> Several times he is transfixed with what he is reading yet his 
memory 
> has recorded other conversations and events outside his field of 
> vision and hearing." 
> Fred again; I could not understand how someone not listening 
> to the conversation HEAR EVERY WORD. Is this Snapes memory? If it 
is, 
> and he jus happened to wander down to the lake and not realise MWPP 
> were there, how did he hear every word they were saying? Unless he 
> was either trying to spy on them or made the memory up in the first 
> place. 
> It just doesn't make any sense to me. Seems like something funny is 
> going on at the very least, for him to be just a few feet away from 
> his mortal enemies in life, and not be watching his own back. 
Either 
> that, or he (Snape) really did like being turned upside down by 
James 
> and Sirius, having his underware exposed to everyone, and possibly 
> more, because we did not see the end of the memory. 


Berit replies:

I don't think you should put too much into Harry being able to hear 
conversations in the pensieve memory Snape couldn't possibly have 
heard himself. Canon seems to suggests that the person entering the 
pensieve memory may move about freely; hearing and seeing things 
quite far away from the owner of the memory as long as he or she 
doesn't wander out of sight of said person. Harry hoped Snape 
wouldn't move away from his father, because then Harry wouldn't be 
able to see more of him (his father). A memory put into a pensieve is 
different from a memory accessed directly in someone's mind. That's 
probably why pensieves are so useful: Dumbledore says something to 
that effect: Putting his own thoughts into a pensieve, he is able to 
look at it "from the outside" so to speak. The pensieve, it seems, 
makes it possible to move around quite freely and hear and see things 
the owner of the memory might not have seen himself, had the memory 
remained in his own head. I'm sorry; Snape may very well be someone 
who shouldn't be trusted, but Harry being able to move around in his 
memory, seeing things Snape didn't notice himself, is not an argument 
Snape set the pensieve as a "trap" for Harry. Simply because this is 
how a pensieve works, no matter whose thoughts are inside.

Berit





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