Whoa Nelly! Lots of Snape, was Harry in NEWT Potions Class?

clio44a clio44a at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 30 21:31:55 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 87798

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "clio44a" <clio44a at y...> 
wrote:
[snip]
> > So it boils down to this: either Ddore agreed about the end of 
the 
> > occlumency lessons, or Sirius is a lousy godfather.
> > 
> 
> Nope, there is a third possibility. As I said Dumbledore may have 
> learned about it too late and had no time to force Harry to 
continue 
> or as I said not to know about it at all till the end.
> 
> 
> Alla



And exactely that 'third  possibility' I find hard to believe
Well, Ddore was not Headmaster of Hogwarts anymore when the 
Occlumency incident happened, I'll give you that. But still he was in 
contact with the Order members. Maybe he even went to the meetings in 
Grimmauld Place. So Sirius and Remus surely had plenty of 
possibilities to bring their case before Ddore. Why didn't they?
At least to Harry they make occlumency sound pretty important.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Reaction of Sirius and Lupin after Harry has told them Snape threw 
him out (OooP, p592)abbr.:

'He WHAT?"shouted Sirius ...

'Are you serius, Harry?' said Lupin quickly ...

'I'm coming to have a word with Snape' said Sirius forcefully ...

'If anyone is going to Snape it will be me!' he [Lupin]said 
firmly.'But Harry, first of all, you're to go back to Snape and tell 
him that on no account is he to stop to give you lessons - when 
Dumbledore hears-'

'Harry, there is nothing so important as you learning Occlumency! 
said Lupin sternly. 'Do you understand me? Nothing?'  
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

To me that does sound as if Remus and Sirius would do everything 
within their power to keep those lessons going. After, 
unsuccessfully, contacting Snape over the Order-secret-mail-whatever 
system they must have talked to Ddore or McGonagall, who seems to 
have at least some influence over Harry and Snape. Sure, that is an 
extrapolation from the canon, but it seems to me the only sensible 
thing to do if Occlumency is indeed so important.
 
And also I don't buy that perhaps Ddore knew about the end of the 
lessons, but had no time to contact Harry. No time? Is there anything 
more important than to prevent the enemy having access to your young 
hero's mind? Ddore could also have asked McGonagall to talk to Harry, 
if he could not do so personally.

I stand by my opinion, either Ddore agreed about the end of the 
lessons or Remus and Sirius are lousy guardians. 

Personally I lean to the first. Ddore might have realized that it was 
impossible for Harry to learn Occlumency from Snape. May that be 
because of Snape's poor teaching skills, their mutual dislike or 
Harry's unwillingness to learn the subject.

Clio





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