Whoa Nelly! Lots of Snape, was Harry in NEWT Potions Class?
clio44a
clio44a at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 30 21:31:55 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 87798
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "clio44a" <clio44a at y...>
wrote:
[snip]
> > So it boils down to this: either Ddore agreed about the end of
the
> > occlumency lessons, or Sirius is a lousy godfather.
> >
>
> Nope, there is a third possibility. As I said Dumbledore may have
> learned about it too late and had no time to force Harry to
continue
> or as I said not to know about it at all till the end.
>
>
> Alla
And exactely that 'third possibility' I find hard to believe
Well, Ddore was not Headmaster of Hogwarts anymore when the
Occlumency incident happened, I'll give you that. But still he was in
contact with the Order members. Maybe he even went to the meetings in
Grimmauld Place. So Sirius and Remus surely had plenty of
possibilities to bring their case before Ddore. Why didn't they?
At least to Harry they make occlumency sound pretty important.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Reaction of Sirius and Lupin after Harry has told them Snape threw
him out (OooP, p592)abbr.:
'He WHAT?"shouted Sirius ...
'Are you serius, Harry?' said Lupin quickly ...
'I'm coming to have a word with Snape' said Sirius forcefully ...
'If anyone is going to Snape it will be me!' he [Lupin]said
firmly.'But Harry, first of all, you're to go back to Snape and tell
him that on no account is he to stop to give you lessons - when
Dumbledore hears-'
'Harry, there is nothing so important as you learning Occlumency!
said Lupin sternly. 'Do you understand me? Nothing?'
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To me that does sound as if Remus and Sirius would do everything
within their power to keep those lessons going. After,
unsuccessfully, contacting Snape over the Order-secret-mail-whatever
system they must have talked to Ddore or McGonagall, who seems to
have at least some influence over Harry and Snape. Sure, that is an
extrapolation from the canon, but it seems to me the only sensible
thing to do if Occlumency is indeed so important.
And also I don't buy that perhaps Ddore knew about the end of the
lessons, but had no time to contact Harry. No time? Is there anything
more important than to prevent the enemy having access to your young
hero's mind? Ddore could also have asked McGonagall to talk to Harry,
if he could not do so personally.
I stand by my opinion, either Ddore agreed about the end of the
lessons or Remus and Sirius are lousy guardians.
Personally I lean to the first. Ddore might have realized that it was
impossible for Harry to learn Occlumency from Snape. May that be
because of Snape's poor teaching skills, their mutual dislike or
Harry's unwillingness to learn the subject.
Clio
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