Re Dishing the Slytherins
Ali <Ali@zymurgy.org>
Ali at zymurgy.org
Sat Feb 1 11:52:27 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 51346
Coming into the discussion, a bit late...
I have to admit that until I read people's objections to Dumbledore's
treatment of the Slytherins in PS/SS, it simply hadn't occurred to me
that the point redistribution was anything other than fair. Since the
time this issue first surfaced, I still believe that the point
redistribution was fair but struggle more over the methodology.
I agree with Catherine that the end of term speech was the first
opportunity that Dumbledore had had to publicly praise Harry, and the
only way to prevent unfair point awarding/confiscating taking place.
Until 24 hours before the feast, Harry's life might still have been
in the balance and to give points out prior to his return to
consciousness would have seemed a bit advanced. Arguably, the points
could have been awarded in that 24 hours, but waiting until Harry was
well enough to be part of the school again, emphasised the
significance of the award.
In terms of "dishing the Slytherins", I see Dumbledore as righting
the balance. 3 of the kids who were awarded points in the feast were
the same three who had practically been sent to Coventry by their
fellow students for their midnight wanderings. These kids were really
made to suffer, and whilst their sufferings can be blamed on their
own stupidity, their loss of 150 points seemed patently unjust in
comparison with Draco who lost only 20 points. The WW seems quite
harsh; people are blamed, people rarely seem to be forgiven. I
believe that Dumbledore was very publically returning the 3 who had
previously been wrongly ostracised. These kids who were prepared to
risk all for people who wouldn't give them the time of day . The
Slytherins were very quick to gloat, but ended up with egg all over
their faces.
I believe that the Slytherins are being rewarded for their gloating,
a well earned put-down. Given their somewhat Machiavellian attitude,
I don't think that they could be too critical of Dumbledore's
methods. I do agree that this was a very hard way to do it, and
would hardly help the "them v. us" culture. Dumbledore was giving
them a dose of their own medicine.
In terms of whether the House Cup was decided prior to the speech, we
can only see what the students themselves saw, Slytherin had won.
Possibly, points would be awarded until the last minute, but
Slytherin's lead made any ordinary last minute changes irrelevant. I
don't believe that Dumbledore was deliberately "Dishing the
Slytherins", but I also don't think that either he, or the Slytherins
themselves would have objected to his methodology. I think he was
using their rules.
Ali
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