What's annoying about Harry (WAS: Characters you hate)

Grey Wolf <greywolf1@jazzfree.com> greywolf1 at jazzfree.com
Sat Feb 1 19:37:35 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 51382

Tom Wall wrote:
> I REPLY:
> Also, I don't see where the yellow flag comes from. I wrote "If Harry 
> WOULD just *tell* Dumbledore."  When had nothing to do with it. IF 
> Harry had been sensible and told Dumbledore right away, much might 
> have been avoided. But luckily for us, Harry is not too sensible 
> (logical, but not sensible) - otherwise we wouldn't have had much of 
> a story. ;-)

"When" has *everything* to do with it. Yellow flag is canon violation. 
You said Harry could've stopped most attacks if he had told Dumbledore 
- but he can't the first time he gets to talk to Dumbledore is after 
the attack on Nick, which is the second to last. Before that, Harry 
didn't *know* how to find Dumbledore's office - he tries to find it in 
PS and we are told that no-one is ever sent there and there are no 
signs saying "To Dumbledore's office --->". And I insist - what if 
Harry had told him about the voice? The important thing is finding the 
entrance to the Chamber, not knowing that the Basilisk is on the move - 
Dumbledore can probably guess that. 

However, please note that I did say "Pale" because Harry could've 
looked up Dumbledore in other ocasions (after some of the attacks, for 
example). Still, in your post you were speaking about the situation in 
Dumbledore's office, and by then stopping most attacks was out of the 
question (since they had already happened).

> GREY WOLF WROTE:
> I'm pretty sure that all the teachers had realised that 
> the monster was a basilisk by now (OK, all except Lockhart). 
> 
> I REPLY:
> There's no canon to support that. Is that just a MD thing?

It has nothing to do with MD (little of CoS has). Let me expose the 
facts:
1) the creature is the pet of Salazar Slytherin, famous parseltongue, 
whose heraldic symbol is a snake
2) the creature paralizes.

I had figured myself that the creature was a basilisk after the attack 
on Mrs Norris, and I didn't even know point 1 at the time. Dumbledore 
has been through one series of attacks already. It would take an idiot 
not to know by then that the creature was a basilisk, after all the 
details Dumbledore has, and Dumbledore is *NOT* an idiot.
 
Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf






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