[HPforGrownups] Quirrel dead?
srsiriusblack at aol.com
srsiriusblack at aol.com
Sat Feb 1 19:53:05 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 51386
In a message dated 01/02/2003 13:29:46 Eastern Standard Time,
trondmm-hp4gu at crusaders.no writes:
> 3. He's alive, and we meet him briefly without any connection with the
> plot.
>
> Again, I'll have to ask: Why? I mean, if you choose to bring back
> somebody from beyond the grave, why would you do it for something
> that's completely irrelevant for the story? Seeing Quirrel again would
> be a shocking surprise for almost every reader, and if we just see him
> briefly in a single chapter, then never hear from him again, I'd feel
> pretty cheated.
>
> 4. He's alive and will be a major part of a future plot.
>
> I've already said how disgusted I'll be if this happens.
>
>
> Did I forget any?
>
>
> Now, if I remember correctly, the "we can't prove he really died"-theory
> comes from Dumbledore's comment that Voldy just left him to die, and
> that this doesn't rule out the possibility that someone saved his life.
>
> That may be so, but what if we look at the whole situation? Here we have
> an eleven year old boy who's just found out that his teacher has been
> possessed, and that had to fight for his life against him. When he wakes
> up, Dumbledore tells him that the teacher was left to die. He must
> realize that Harry will think that this mean Quirrel actually did die.
> Isn't it spectacularly cruel of him to leave out the fact that he
> survived, and just let Harry think he was killed? Unless you subscribe
> to the evil Dumbledore theory, this just doesn't seem like him at all.
>
> I mean, try to imagine the principal of a muggle school entering a class
> of eleven year olds to tell them that their teacher has been the victim
> of a robbery. That she was stabbed and left to die. I would absolutely
> expect her to tell the class about it if the teacher actually survived
> the stabbing. Wouldn't you?
>
> Anyway, there are also an incident outside canon that could make it
> difficoult to bring him back, even if JKR might have wanted to
> initially. In the movie, there is absolutely no doubt that Quirrel died,
> so JKR would probably think twice about bringing him back. His part
> would probably be pretty important if he returns, something that only
> increases Warner's headache, as that makes it even more difficoult to
> cut out Quirrel from future movies.
>
Ok... again, my only point is that if he were alive- and mind I was just
following on the thread that he *could* be- he would probably be in St.
Mungos. Now the reason this could be a part of future books in my twisted
mind is that I want to go inside St. Mungos very much. I have a sneaking
suspicion as it has been brought up a few times in the books- esp.
surrounding Neville's parents- that we may get to enter there.
But how?
There are a few ways I can see...
Number One, of course most obviously would be something to do with Neville
and his parents... Maybe Neville comes back to Hogwarts after the summer
holidays and tells Harry about visiting his parents there- this would also
allow for Neville and Harry to bond more and for Neville to become more of an
important character which would please many of us Neville-sympathisers.
Neviile would finally tell Harry about his parents and if Quirrel were alive,
Neville would say that he saw him [Quirrel] in hospital- 'and he looked a
right mess'
Number two, which would be far more interesting is if the scar becomes more
of an issue. Rita Skeeter seems to think it is and if she becomes the baddie
with the quill, she could exploit Harry even more. Harry would go to St.
Mungos. - Which would be very interesting.
So basically, I don't care if Quirrel is dead or alive, I just want to know
more about St. Mungos.... and I think having him there would give a nice plot
twist if we ever get inside hospital walls.
-Snuffles
"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the
dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with
open eyes, to make it possible. This I did." T.E. Lawrence- Seven Pillars of
Wisdom
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