What's annoying about Harry (WAS: Characters you hate)

[Grey Wolf <greywolf1@jazzfree.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 51397

Tom Wall wrote:
> Grey Wolf wrote:
> But my main point still holds: telling Dumbledore about the voice in 
> the walls would've been useless.
> 
> I reply:
> Hey, once you're convinced, you're convinced, eh? ;-)
> That's okay, me too.  I guess we're going to have to 
> agree to disagree on this one.

You know, I still haven't seen your explanation of how, exactly, would 
Harry telling Dumbledore about the voice would help - I've given you my 
arguments, but have yet to see yours. But if you want to disagree, it's 
OK with me.

> Tom insists:
> Yes, they can be inferred. But since an inference is not in canon, an 
> inference doesn't hold. Unless you can support your inference with 
> canon, which you're not doing. Canon does not tell us that Dumbledore 
> knew it was a basilisk. Period.
> 
> -Tom

It's interesting that you, that don't even support with arguments your 
argument of Harry telling Dumbledore about the voice are telling me 
that I need to find a line where Dumbledore says "I knew it was a 
basilisk all along" to accept my point. Welcome to Theory Bay, where 
the ships navigate the pleasent waters and the hurricane Jo is fast 
approaching. Get used to outlandish theories, because they are 
commonplace in this list. If you're going to cry "no canon" every time 
someone comes up with a new theory, you're going to be posting a lot of 
one-liners. :) 

As theories go, in fact, my theory about Dumbledore's knowledge of the 
basilisk is one of the strongest (right now I mean - while no-one pokes 
holes in it, of course). Shielding behind the "no canon" is not a good 
idea, because the simplest answer to it is "canon doesn't state that he 
didn't know, either". After all, Dumbledore never says "Oh, so it was a 
basilisk - I had wondered". And he is quite quick to admit ignorance 
(as in GoF, when he admits not knowing about Crouch!Moody).

Oh, and in case you are not yet convinced, I've got a little more 
circunstantial evidence - how did Dumbledore know that Harry was going 
to need Fawkes and the sword if he didn't know that it was a basilisk? 
In the other books, it is him or Snape that come to the rescue (i.e. 
humans), but in this case he sends a bird that *just happens* to be 
immune to the basilisk's gaze, peck out eyes and can cure its venom. It 
certainly looks as if Dumbledore knew something, didn't he?

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf & Melody