Harry's wand and priori incantatum

Diana <dianasdolls@yahoo.com> dianasdolls at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 2 10:24:56 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 51451

Julie proposed:
>we have seen that shadow again? Or perhaps since 
> it had already been expelled, it was deleted from the wand?
> If the spells were deleted, it might explain why some of the 
spells Voldemort preformed (AK on Harry for example) didn't come 
back out of his wand. Perhaps, whomever had the wand did Priori 
Incantatum to make sure it was Voldemorts wand and the spell came 
out then and was deleted from the wand.  Or perhaps it did come out, 
but in a way that was unnoticable. After all the crucios were only 
heard as screams, and the we don't know what actually happened with 
the spell, so perhaps something did come out, even a silence, which 
we didn't notice.  Just a few thoughts.  Discuss?
 

I reply:
I think you are right that the Cruciatus Curses inflicted upon 
Harry, Avery and Wormtail by Voledmort were expressed by Voldemort's 
wand as screams during the priori incantatem effect. Screams emitted 
by the wand are specifically mentioned in the text. 
Re-reading the passage during the effect, it also occurs to me that 
Harry isn't really noticing what else Voledmort's wand is doing 
after Cedric, Frank Bryce and Bertha Jorkins come out it.  He's too 
busy concentrating on holding on to his wand while being shocked at 
the 'shades' pacing around Voledmort and himself.  Since the books 
are told from Harry's POV, we don't know if Voldemort's wand did 
make a noise (or even a moment of silence like you suggest above) 
that represented the regurgitation of the attempted AK curse upon 
Harry that failed - because at that point Harry just wasn't paying 
attention. 
We don't know at this point if curses that failed will even appear 
in prior incantatem.  It would be interesting to perform a prior 
incantatem on Harry's wand to see what did show up - would all the 
failed spells he's tried while learning magic even show up?  Would 
the QWC Dark Mark show up again?  Does a wand store the spells it's 
performed forever?  Always available to call up again and again like 
an unerasable video tape?  Hopefully, one of the next three books 
will enlighted us.  :) 
One more note: Since Voldemort still has this same wand from that 
night he killed Lily and James, I don't see how MoM could have found 
Voldemort's wand to perform a prior incantatem on it thirteen years 
before.  Because if MoM had gotten ahold of Voldemort's wand, I 
would assume they would have destroyed it and then Voldemort 
wouldn't have been able to get it back.  Even if MoM [for some wild, 
inconceivable reason] had gotten ahold of it and didn't destroy it, 
I don't see how Voldemort could have ever gotten it back.  I 
seriously doubt that MoM would have sold off this dangerous and 
symbolic relic of Voldemort to some second-hand wand shop.  Of 
course, Fudge is an idiot, so who knows?  ;)  Yes, yes, I know about 
the Evil!Fudge theories and the other theory [a good one] that 
Wormtail ran off with Voldemort's wand clutched in his little rat 
teeth, but still...how did Voldemort get his wand back?  And will 
JKR ever tell her readers?
I imagine book 5 will tell us a lot more information about what 
really happened the night Harry's parents died.  I'm hoping that the 
reasons for Voldemort's goal to kill a one-year-old boy are finally 
explained.  Since Voldie has failed to kill Harry THREE times, I'm 
thinking that Voldie had a very good reason to be afraid of Mr. 
Harry Potter.  <g>

Diana - who never gets tired of Harry defeating Voldemort





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