Uber-perfect Cedric / Out of control Amos/ Confessions of the Minds Obsessed

[vojoca <vojoca@yahoo.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 51651

Note:  I wrote my response to Marie about 10 hours before I wrote the 
response to Petra Pan.  I didn't want to post twice in the span of 
two minutes, so I've combined the two in one post.  My feeling 
towards Cedric have softened a bit since I wrote the response to 
Marie, which is why it looks like one minute I'm saying I didn't 
really care about Cedric and then the next minute I'm cheering and 
doing a happy dance.

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I wrote some stuff trying to clarify my POV, and Marie replied:

<<Okay, I see what you meant. Sorry for misinterpreting you.>> 
[edited]


And now me:
No need for an apology =)  I know that I sometimes
ok *often* ramble 
and that I don't always come up the RIGHT words to describe my POV, 
so no worries.


Marie wrote:
<<I agree completely about the death. It was so sudden that I had to 
do a double-take. I think it was meant to show Voldemort's evil more 
than anything else

.[snip]

..Cedric's death was a pity and a shock, 
but it didn't 
resonate as deeply with me as one of the minor characters we know a 
bit better would have -- for example, one of the twins. We don't 
know them all that well, but we have seen both good and bad aspects 
of their personalities. >>

Now me:
I agree with you on the showing Voldemort's evil thing.  He's got 
such *cold blood*.  (maybe that's why voldy is so closely associated 
with snakes/basilisks.  Cold blood.).  And yes, I would be a LOT more 
affected if a minor character that we at least know a little better 
were the one to die


And about Cedric's father:  Parents *do* sometimes get crazy about 
being proud of their kids, after all.  But what Mr. Diggory said to 
Harry and about Harry at Stoatshead Hill was just
.tactless.  Then he 
sort of tells Harry off when he visits Cedric at Hogwarts before the 
third task.  And then we see him sobbing near the end of GOF.  I 
think Mr. Diggory seriously needs to learn how to control his 
emotions.  :-D  I can't help but feel a little bit suspicious of Mr. 
Diggory though.  I just can't put my finger on *why*
.yet
.


Petra Pan wrote:
<< Well, vojoca, I am afraid this won't help your
impatience any, but Cedric doesn't think of
himself as being perfect; this fact only adds to
his saintly aura, doesn't it? <g> >>

Now me:
LOL you're absolutely right.  He doesn't have one trace of arrogance 
in him.  (But maybe that's because his father has enough for the both 
of them
)


Petra Pan wrote:
<<In GoF, as the two boys argue over who should and
shouldn't get to win the TriWizard Tournament,
Cedric raises the fact that he should have stayed
behind to ensure the safety of all hostages as
Harry had done as a reason why Harry should win
and not himself. I got the impression that in
light of Harry's actions, Cedric raised the bar
on himself.>>

And now me:
I was actually just re-reading that part in the book.  From the part 
where Harry warns Cedric about the spider to the part where they 
touch the cup.  (I can't believe I had forgotten about Harry 
saying "stop being noble" to Cedric.)  So anyway, I'm reading this 
argument they're having, when I realize that Harry says that Cedric 
should win because he could get to the cup first, fair and square, 
and Cedric says that Harry should win because he felt that Harry 
deserved it more than he did.  He felt it would only be right.  
*and* "He looked as though this was costing him every ounce of 
resolution he had, but his face was set, his arms were folded, he 
seemed decided."  GOF chapter 32.    Hooray!  He's human!  *does a 
happy dance*  

And I think Harry and Cedric may have developed a respect for each 
other here.  

 
Petra pan asked:
<snip>
<< What DID you guys argue about?>>

Me:
(I hope I'm not breaking any rules by answering this.  It *is* about 
the books, after all.)
He was saying Prof. Dumbledore is going to die in OOP and that the 
teaser that we got about Dumbledore telling Harry everything is in 
fact the beginning of a confession about him being in league with 
Voldy, and that the reason Hogwarts was the "only safe place" is 
because Voldy and Dumbledore had some sort of agreement.  I of course 
said that that would be highly unlikely because it would make 
everything we've learned so far a big pile of "stinky stuff."   And 
it just went from there.  



vojoca
-who feels like her eyeballs are about to pop out of her head.