Teaching Unforgivables

sharana.geo <sharana.geo@yahoo.com> sharana.geo at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 2 01:15:32 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 49080

jenny from ravenclaw wrote:
> Of course, it is entirely possible that someone else has already
> thought of this and if that is the case, I am sorry.  Anyway, here
> goes:
>
> For a long time I wondered why Crouch-as-Moody would teach the
> Unforgiveables to the students of Hogwarts.  Wouldn't he be
> hurting the DE cause?  Maybe not!  I suddenly realized that
> perhaps Fake!Moody taught the Unforgiveables to Hogwarts students
> as a way of testing them.  Once he got a sense of how each student
> reacted, he then passed on the information to existing DEs and to
> Voldemort himself.  For example, we all know that Ron does not
> respond well to Imperius and many of us wonder if it will be used
> on him in the future. Crouch-as-Moody could be the one to start
> the chain that will lead to Imperius!Ron.
>
>Really, it is an extremely clever way to have access to all the
> kids at Hogwarts.  Once Voldemort and his followers have all the
> notes on the kids, they can then even access the parents as well,
> if they choose.  The fact that Harry learned to throw the Imperius
> Curse strays a bit from my theory, but perhaps young Crouch warned
> Voldemort to use his very best and strongest Imperius he could
> muster.  I'll just chalk that up to Harry surprising them all.


I remember reading other people's theories as to why Crouch!Moody 
taught the kids this curse. I remember 2 of the theories which I 
believe plausible. 

First Reason
Dumbledore wanted Moody to teach the kids the Unforgivable Curses. I 
suppose Dumbledore wanted Moody to keep him updated as to how the 
kids were handling them. If Crouch!Moody refused to teach them or 
tried to misguide the kids, Dumbledore would immediately suspect 
that this is not the real Moody (and that would blow up Voldemort's 
plan). Remember Dumbledore only realized this was a fake Moody when 
Harry came back with Cedric's dead body and Dumbledore told Moody 
that he preferred Harry staying with him instead of going to the 
Hospital wing. Real!Moody wouldn't have taken Harry. I believe this 
is the main reason.

Second Reason
>From the beginning, Voldemort and Crouch!Moody's plan was to snatch 
Harry away from Hogwarts to the graveyard through the Triwizard Cup. 
So Crouch!Moody had to ensure that Harry won the cup. Maybe he 
wanted to prevent the other 3 champions, or other DE's (especially 
those who Crouch despised), from using the Imperius Curse on Harry 
and messing up Voldemort's plan for Harry to touch the portkeyed 
Cup. Of course, being Unforgivable Curses, you wouldn't expect the 
other Champions using them. 


Your idea (on passing information to the DE's) is a good one. 
Although at first I thought that Voldemort simply did not know that 
Harry could fight it, now that I am rereading the scenes of the 
graveyard, I think it is possible that Voldemort was testing how 
strong Harry really was. Why? Voldemort decides to have a duel (Ch. 
34). He first casts on Harry the Cruciatus Curse which fills Harry 
with pain, maybe trying to weaken not only Harry's body but also his 
determination and his concentration. Believing it has been enough 
pain to undermine him, Voldemort casts the Imperius Curse, but Harry 
resists it, surprising Voldemort (Voldemort speaks in a quiet voice, 
and the DE's stop laughing) which throws him another Cruciatus 
Curse. After this he casts the Killing Curse but his wand locks with 
Harry's wand.

I think the first reason was really important to ensure Voldemort's 
plan, the second reason was just an added precaution and your idea 
is a bonus gift for him. Crouch!Moody probably passed out even more 
information to Voldemort, or at least planned in doing it. Although 
I believe that some of the kids will be able to increase their 
abilities after Crouch!Moody has gone, outdating whatever 
information he could have gathered.

There are other good reasons, people have come up with, but I only 
remember these two.

Happy New Year!!

Sharana












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