[HPforGrownups] Harry's Trip/Penelope and the Death/Ron's Motivation

[sammerz2388 <sammerz2388@aol.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 49086

It came to me as I read...

bboy_mn wrote:

....The new place in the wizard's world that Harry will visit. Could 
it be
Godric's Hollow, Egypt, the Ministry of Magic, or .... perhaps 
Azkaban?

What if, in an effort to clear Sirius's name, the Ministry agrees to a
new impartial and fair trial during which they will weigh the original
evidence and the new evidence, and make a new ruling on Sirius's guilt
or innocents. But, the only way the Ministry will consider it, is if
Sirius turns himself in as a show of good faith. Which means that
until the end of the trial, Sirius is back in Azkaban. OR... it could
be a sham of a trial and Sirius, despite four witnesses and
Dumblefore's support, is convict, or worse yet, they change their mind
about the trial and send him to Azakaban ,and maybe even to the
Dementor's kiss. 

I see a shame of a trial, execution of the kiss set for a later date.
Dumbledore, Harry, and Company must break into Azkaban which is now
thought to be under the assumed influence of Voldemort, and break
Sirius out. 


and I write:

Other people have also commented of the possibiloty that Harry's 
visit will be to Azkaban. I agree, but what about the possibility 
that he's not *visiting*, but he's a (dun-dun-dun) *prisoner*? It 
seems obvious to me - Azkaban *is* a prison, and when I thought of 
Harry's potential "visit" to Azkaban, I immediately thought of him 
being there for the reason everyone else there, is.

Okay, yes, *why* would Harry Potter be in Azkaban? Well, it's not 
like he hasn't been involved in some pretty risky business. Time-
turning, assosciating with criminals on the lam, using an invisible 
cloak and a "dangerous" map to stick his nose where it doesn't 
belong - IMO, actions that could get a young wizard in quite a load 
of trouble. What's to say he isn't going to continue with this risky 
behavior - but this time, he's caught! Or perhaps just found out by 
the wrong person... And I don't see the question of, "Yes, but he's a 
student.. wouldn't the MoM have qualms about sending someone *so* 
young to Azkaban?" It's fair to say Harry's been treated abnormally 
his whole life. Allowed to have a broom as a first year, allowed to 
participat in the Triwizard Tournament at the tender age of fourteen -
 being sent to Azkaban while still going through puberty doesn't seem 
like too much of a stretch, does it? ;-)

There's still the question of *what* Harry would do to receive such a 
punishment, but I fear trying to imagine all the possible scenarios 
that Harry could get himself into, would severely stress the limits 
of my already-aching head...or maybe I'm just afraid to try :-)



Oh, and to ease my deathly fear of submitting a too-short post, my 
attempt at combining two...


Someone (I *think* Richelle) listed Penelope Clearwater as a death 
for Book 6. We've all been discussing Percy's possible move to the 
Dark Side and back, etc. - is it possible good ol' Penelope could 
play a role? Maybe Percy *will* move to Voldemort's side, but an 
incident with Penelope will make him see what's right. I don't 
know...it seemed a lot more plausible before I wrote it out :-)

And also, this:

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "draco382 <draco382 at y...>" 
<draco382 at y...> wrote:
> -- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jcminjapan <jonmayes at h...>" 
> wrote: 
> >I am myself debating on who will die 
> > in the next book.  Personally my choices are Hagrid or Mr. 
> Weasely.  
> > Both seem to  fit into JKR`s description.  For this post I will 
> stick 
> > with why I think it will be Mr. Weasely.
> 
> This may create some waves for those in the Ron Weasely camp (of 
> course, I too belong there much of the time :-) but I feel that in 
> order for Ron to be actively involved in the war against Voldemort, 
> he needs some sort of impetus.  

Could Percy's switch to the Dark Side be a motivation for Ron? IMO 
seeing his brother succumb to Voldemort would be quite a load 
of "inspiration"...if you're of the opinion that Ron hasn't quite 
enough reasons to fight passionately against Voldemort just yet. :-)


That's all I dare to say for today, for fear I'd make an even bigger 
fool of myself...


Samantha, who fears her (some would say) tender age is showing in her 
post...and thinks there are a lot more yung'ns lurking out there then 
anyone expects :-)