[HPforGrownups] Phoenix!Harry;/ Harry's scar hurting around Voldemort/ Spoiler in book 1?

Richelle Votaw rvotaw at i-55.com
Sun Jan 5 19:18:01 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 49229

bel writes:

> Phoenix: Tremendously loyal, able to carry heavy burdens, healing tears.
> 
> Harry: Tremendously loyal, carrying a heavy "burden", eyes like Lily's?
> 
> I wonder if Harry is going to prove to have healing powers related to those 
> eyes of his. Or if the world will only be healed when Harry can finally break  > down and cry...

I personally subscribe to the theory that whatever magic is in Harry's eyes won't be released or stimulated until he has a nice long cry.  That perhaps by fighting back tears so many times he has also pushed back a magical ability that is aching to get out.  And when the emotional break happens it will release the magic hidden within.  A focused unwanded magic?  I don't know, but something in those eyes.

Diana writes:

> Will Harry eventually be able to withstand the scar pain without 
> buckling, throwing up or nearly losing conciousness in future face-
> to-face meetings with Voldemort?  I think and hope he will, but I'm 

He's just about got to overcome this, or else in their next meeting Voldemort walks up, Harry hits the ground in pain, Voldemort AK's him, the end.  I think not.  So something definitely has to give.  Can he be taught to block this?  A defense to put up?  Something?  Anything?  For that matter, how many people actually know just how badly Harry's scar hurts around Voldemort?  The only times he's told people about it were when it was hurting after dreams and such, right?  Then it was more of an ache.  Not the "hit the ground throwing up" kind of pain that he experienced when facing Voldemort.  And if he doesn't tell someone about this, will they know?  Dumbledore, of course, seems to know things without being told.  But if no one knows how helpless Harry gets (even if for just a moment) from the pain, they can't help him learn to manage it more quickly.

Diana again:

> Now I'm wondering why Harry is able to withstand that much pain.  
> The Harry as heir of Gryffindor theory springs to mind, but is there 
> something else in Harry's bloodline that could help explain this?  
> If it's only because Harry is very strong-willed, noble and brave, 
> that's okay, I guess, but I wonder...

That's true as well.  How does he manage?  After all, in CoS he passed out from a broken arm.  Broken arms hurt, yes.  But I would imagine from the description of that pain in his scar it's a lot worse.  So basically, umm, I don' t know!

Laura writes:

> So I won't go as far as to suggest that Snape killed the 
> Potters, after all, Voldemort takes full credit for that.  (Imperio 
> theories, anyone? *evil grin*) But this raises an interesting 
> question- does Harry connect Snape and the green light simply because 
> his subconcious knows this green light is connected to his parent's 
> death and therefore Voldemort, and Harry's immediate reaction to 
> Snape is that he is evil and therefore also connected with 
> Voldemort?  Or was Harry remembering Snape along with that fateful 
> night because Snape really WAS there?

I've often thought that there was more to Snape's life debt than met the eye.  But never connected this dream to Snape possibly being present when the Potters died.  Theoretically, Snape could've told Dumbledore that Voldemort was going after the Potters.  Then still with Voldemort, been standing in the shadows, unable (or unwilling?) to stop Voldemort from killing them.  We know James saved Snape's life.  But what if Snape was present when James died and didn't (couldn't?) save him?  Snape has saved Harry's neck how many times now?  Isn't that life debt repaid?  Perhaps not, if he had the chance to save James and didn't or couldn't.

Richelle


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