[HPforGrownups] The one who has left me forever...

[srsiriusblack at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 49279

In a message dated 06/01/2003 06:43:07 Eastern Standard Time, 
amy_marblefeet at yahoo.co.uk writes:


> 
> I'm new here so I am not sure if this has been discussed before.  
> When I was re-reading GoF for the seventh time I came across this 
> curious comment by Mr Weasly in ch. 9 The Dark Mark (pg 128).
> 
> He says to Hermione "...it was only death eaters who ever knew how to 
> conjure it.  I'd be very surprised if the person who did it hadn't 
> been a Death Eater once, even if they're not now..."
> 
> It is made quite clear all through the four books that the Weasly's 
> in particular do not believe many of the redemption, devil-made-me-do-
> it stories told by ex-death eaters trying to save their own skin, 
> especially the Malfoys.  If this is true why would Arthur even 
> consider that at least one of them was not a death eater now?
> 
> Could he be talking about Severus Snape?  If he is not, could 
> Voldemort have been talking about someone else in the graveyard scene?
> 
> I await your comments.
> 
> Amy
> (who waits patiently for book five and for Snapes past to turn around 
> and bite him on the ass, as pasts tend to do)

Hi Amy and welcome to the discussion......

ok.. I read the title, first off and thought you were speaking of Snape- "th 
eone who left me forever" for he is the ONLY one I have found to fit inside 
Volide's inner DE circle who does not appear with explanation. I.E> Karakoff 
is the one who flees in fright and will be punished...


Barty Crouch, ie Moddy+Crouch is fairly explained in GoF as the one who 
conjures the mark. He *is* Voldie's loyal servant at Hogwarts.... evil, evil 
evil B. Crouch Jr.

However, I broght this up before... BCJr never leaves the service of 
Voldie...... Severus does. There is speculation here as to whether or not 
Snape is a double agent ( and if I had the gumption I *might* be able to find 
the posts.... sorry to be a PITA but you'll have to look back a bit) 
Personally, I don't see my darling searie Snape as being such.... He made the 
mistake of becoming a follower of Voldie and has paid... see the ending of 
GoF when he and Sirius are revealed to one another.

Snape on his own is very complex and there is much left to us to be learnt 
about him... check the "Snape" headed posts.. the folks here have some greta 
ideas and insight...

The reason Snape will *not* be considered a DE is clear... Even Arthur 
Weasley respects Dumbledore's opinions. Granted, we do NOT know what happened 
to make Dumbledore testify on Snape's behalf, nor do we know, yet, what 
really turned Severus to the Light Side, but I, for one, *trust* Dumbledore. 

well that, and I love him <wink>

But Bart Courch Jr. conjured the mark and he is established as EVIL!!! evil 
evil evil.


hope this helps.

-one tired Snuffles

"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty 
recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the 
dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with 
open eyes, to make it possible. This I did."  T.E. Lawrence- Seven Pillars of 
Wisdom


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