[HPforGrownups] Crouch!Moody. When did Dumbledore know?/ Harry accused and locked up in Azkaban

Richelle Votaw rvotaw at i-55.com
Thu Jan 9 04:13:19 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 49463

Pickle Jimmy writes:

> In the whole "[Dumbledore] doesn't miss a trick" arena, when does 
> Dumbledore suspect that Moody isn't Moody?
> 
> I don't have the books with me - I'm actually at work :/ - but I was 
> wondering if there had been a hunt for canon regarding Dumbledore's 
> knowledge (or suspicions) of fake!moody.

I believe the first indication we have is what Dumbledore says himself.  That when he told Harry to stay (while dealing with Cedric's dead body, parents, etc.) and Moody took him away he knew it wasn't Moody.  Because the real Moody would never have taken Harry from the scene.

Kathleen writes:

> I predict Harry will be tried, convicted, and locked into Azkaban.  
> He will have to face the Dementors...his worst fear.  Luckily though, 
> he has his Patronus charm to help him. Also, he is friends to two 
> former inmates...Sirius and Hagrid!  Perhaps they can get him out?

First, I don't see how Harry's Patronus would help him out in Azkaban.  It can fend off a dementor.  Maybe two.  But a prison full of them, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week?  Harry wouldn't last a day.  Maybe I'm a softie, but I don't think JKR would do that to Harry.  It would be almost worse than death.  He would mentally break down (next stop rooming with Lockhart?--just kidding).

Second, how are Sirius and Hagrid supposed to get him out?  If Sirius breaths a word he's back in himself.  Hagrid couldn't get himself out, and it took Sirius 12 years.

> Meanwhile, with Harry locked up in Azkaban, Voldemort will be 
> completely unchecked and the Death Eaters free to continue their 
> duplicity.  Could this explain the increase in deaths hinted at by 

I really don't see how Harry out of Azkaban would keep Voldemort in check.  His army of DE's isn't going to sit around saying, "Oh, I can't kill anyone, Harry Potter might come after me."  Harry can't do a thing to stop Voldemort until he meets him face to face.  Eventually (again).

Richelle


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