Ron a seer
sevenhundredandthirteen <sevenhundredandthirteen@yahoo.com>
sevenhundredandthirteen at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 9 04:28:23 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 49464
Jim Ferer wrote:
>Some people have speculated Ron could be a seer. What if the
>bullfeathers Ron comes up with to placate Trelawney start coming up
>true? He'd be the opposite of Trelawney - someone who doesn't
>believe a word of what he's saying, but it turns out true. It would
>be sort of reverse Cassandra complex.
Faith wrote:
> I have actually thought about this... in GoF, when Harry and Ron
are
> making up predictions for their Divination homework, a few of
> Ron's
> predictions actually do come true. (I'm sorry for the
> paraphrasing,
> but I don't actually have the book right now. Maybe someone could
> check this for me?) He predicts, for Harry, that "someone he
> thought
> was a friend would stab him in the back." which could be
> Ron's
> jealousy after Harry's name comes out of the GoF. He also
> predicts
> that he will get into a fight, and later he does get into a fight
> with Harry. Maybe this is just my Ron-Fan side coming out. I think
> that Ron must have *some* sort of undiscovered talent.
The idea of Ron being a seer has always seemed to be quite popular.
Most of the canon support for this is found in the dodgy predictions
that he and Harry make up. Other than the two you've mentioned (Found
in Chapter 14 "The Unforgivable Curses" GoF. Ron: "Why don't you get
stabbed in the back by someone you thought was a friend" Ron: "I'll
think I'll come off worst in a fight") there are other ones, such as:
Ron predicts his own drowning, then gets taken to the bottom of the
Lake in the second Task.
(Chapter 14 "The Unforgivable Curses" GoF)
Ron predicts Harry will have "unexpected gold" which could be taken
to be Harry winning the Triwizard Tournament. (Chapter 6 "Talons and
Tea Leaves" PoA).
There's loads more, but some of them are a more of a stretch. As an
example, Harry predicts he will "lose a treasured possession," and
then when his name gets pulled out of the Goblet of Fire he loses
Ron's friendship. I'm sure all the evidence is documented somewhere.
There are also some other examples before Ron and Harry take
Divination such as: Ron guesses that Tom Riddle killed Moaning
Myrtle, which ends up being the case (from Chapter 13 "The Very
Secret Diary" CoS- "Maybe he murdered Myrtle, that would've done
everyone a favour...")
On a slightly different tangent but still in support of the 'Ron is a
Seer' theory, I've thought that (in addition to the dodgy predictions
that Ron makes) the fact that he is exceptionally good at chess may
be an indication of his Seeing abilities. The success of a chess
player is reliant on anticipating the opponents next move. The best
way to win a game of chess is to know what the person will do next
and plan a response ahead of time. If Ron is a Seer then his talent
at chess may be because of it- he Sees what his opponent will do
next. In comparison, Hermione is *bad* at chess, and we know that she
thinks Divination is a load of rubbish and doesn't tolerate it.
(Hermione is bad at chess is from Chapter 13 "Nicolas Flamel" PS-
'Chess was the only thing Hermione ever lost at...')
(Hermione thinks Divination is garbage from PoA, specifically Chapter
6 "Talons and tea Leaves" PoA- "That lesson was absolute rubbish
compared to my Arithmancy class")
If Ron is indeed a Seer, his talent at chess is well accounted for.
~<(Laurasia)>~
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