[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry a Seer?

[Maria Kirilenko]

No: HPFGUIDX 49519


 
 I wrote:

> Yes, but Seeing and Divination is, as I understand it, the *ability
to predict the future.* So while Harry "sees" what happens to Frank
and Voldemort in Book 4 and remembers what happened when his parents
dies, he doesn't predict the future - he sees the past and the
present. That's not Seeing. I stick to the idea that Harry actually
*remembers* the events of the Halloween in Godric's Hollow, and sees
the dreams in GoF ('live') because of his connection with Voldemort
(the failed curse).
> 
> Maria

bboy_mn adds:

Regardless of your personal definition of 'Seeing'; Harry is seeing.
And regardless of the reason for his ability, he is still
demonstrating psychic ability.

Harry is clairvoyant. (1. The supposed power to SEE objects or events
that cannot be perceived by the senses. 2. Acute intuitive insight or
perceptiveness.) In a sense, clairvoyant means 'clear seeing'. Another
term might be 'remote vision'. 

<snip Muggle world examples>

So, by my definition, he sees real events in his dream because of a
psychic connection to Voldemort, that sounds like a Seer to me.

I reply:

Well, I guess that one can call seeing 'live' events Seeing if one wants to, although I personally think that the term should be used only for the ability to predict the future. I agree that Harry is clairvoyant, but I say that: 

1. It's not a special gift, as it's the result of Voldemort Ak'ing Harry 

2. We don't have any evidence of Harry being able to see the *future,* which seems to me the most useful part of Seeing 

3. His "gift" (or curse <g> ) doesn't cover anything except Voldemort.

So, I am willing to say that Harry is a *very* limited Seer, and no more, although in the pending war even this limited ability will be very useful. But his gift wouldn't let him win at chess or Quidditch, for example.

Maria



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