Perfidious!Lupin(WAS: Against Evil!Lupin responses (long))

mitchbailey82 <MITCHBAILEY82@HOTMAIL.COM> MITCHBAILEY82 at HOTMAIL.COM
Sat Jan 11 22:30:04 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 49645

Marina wrote:
 
>Lupin's actions are really not so different from Harry's in CoS. 
>Harry doesn't tell Dumbledore about hearing the basilisk's voice 
> in the walls.

 susannahlm wrote:

> Um. . . No, look, I'm sorry, but I *really* have to disagree here. 
> First of all, Harry did not "know perfectly well it was important 
> information." He didn't have a clue *what* it was. Sure, it might 
> have been "important information," and from an objective point of 
> view, it pretty obviously was. 

marinafrants wrote:

> There's a deadly monster loose in the school and you keep heering a 
> voice saying "Kill, kill, kill."  <snip> It doesn't take a 
> genius to figure out that there's almost certainly a connection, 
>and that identifying the source of the voice might prevent further 
> attacks.  

Me:
Although I believe there are some similarities between Harry's 
behaviour in COS and Lupin's in POA. I believe that the Marauders map 
is a better example of this.

After Sirius has got passed the Fat Lady and security is being 
stepped up (which was more for Harry's sake than anyone else's) Harry 
still doesn't show the map to anyone even though it shows secret 
entrances into the castle that no one else knows about. Why does he 
do this? Mainly because he doesn't want to get Fred and George into 
trouble - but also because that would mean he couldn't go to Hogsmead 
again. 

Is this any different from what Lupin was doing when he with held the 
animagis forms that Sirius could take from Dumbledore? Why does he do 
this for two reasons one he doesn't want to get James or Peter into 
trouble - OK I know they were dead (supposedly in Peters case) but 
even still he didn't want to tarnish there memory. Secondly because 
he felt it would effect Dumbledore's trust in him.
In both examples both Lupin act in the way they do for both selfish 
reasons (Hogsmead, Dumbledore's trust) and to protect others (Fred & 
George, James & Peter) and in both cases if they had come forward it 
could have lead to Sirius being captured more quickly or at least 
aided in the safety of the castle and those in it.

Now before anyone jumps on the "but Lupin didn't show/tell Dumbledore 
about the map either" bandwagon I am well aware of that and believe 
that similar reasons as above can be used as to why Lupin didn't tell 
Dumbledore also I believe that Lupin had been keeping an eye out for 
Black more often than before Buckbeaks trial, using the map. So I 
also believe he would have felt that as long as he kept an eye on the 
secret passageways himself then he could stop Sirius from entering 
through them himself and thus no one else need know. So basically I 
believe he acted more responsibly with the map and used it to monitor 
for Sirius himself rather than to let the passageways go totally 
unguarded as Harry was.

Michelle
who feels that Lupin Is Not Evil (but is biased because he's one of 
her favourite characters)






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