Lucius's job / Hr+Ro = JKR+??? / Wizarding Plumbing and Muggles
Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) <catlady@wicca.net>
catlady at wicca.net
Mon Jan 13 03:27:38 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 49705
Dave dmwang wrote:
<< Do we know from canon what job, if any, Lucius Malfoy has? >>
We don't know from canon what job Lucius Malfoy has. I believe that
the Malfoys have inherited so much wealth over the centuries that
managing his investments and playing politics is a full-time job.
Peter the Couch Elf wrote:
<< Jo Rowling has said that Hermione is a character loosely based on
herself. As such, it is interesting that she has Hermione becoming
attracted to Ron rather than Harry. >>
And she has introduced the public, on a TV show, to her childhood
friend, Sean something, on whom she said Ron is based. She reminisces
of them hanging out together without ever hinting at any romance
between them... She reveals so much about herself to the public that
it leads me to speculate about things which are none of my beeswax.
Dan Tobias wrote:
<< Actually, they also adopted indoor plumbing... note all the
references to bathrooms at Hogwarts. >>
I always say, in the Potterverse, the wizarding folk had indoor
plumbing with hot and cold running water and flush toilets ever since
Atlantis. All the various Muggles who 'invented' indoor plumbing
(Minoans, Romans, 18th century, etc) were really trying to copy what
they had seen when a guest in a wizarding home. Also, the wizarding
folk had elaborate castles ever since Atlantis, so it doesn't matter
that Muggle 'castles' were IIRC wooden huts surrounded by a muddy
ditch and a picket fence at the time of the Founders.
I personally don't believe in Atlantis or primordial matriarchies,
but I also don't believe in flying carpets or House Elves. A large
part of the gimmick of the Potterverse is that many things which are
familiar folklore or fantasy motifs which every reader *knows* aren't
real, *are* real (altho' often garbled) in the Potterverse. So I
think I'm tremendously amusing to add Atlantis and primordial
matriarchies to the list of things that Muggles are too stupid to
believe in.
About Potterverse wizarding folk having had late twentieth century
indoor plumbing and Renaissance 'replica' castles since back before
Atlantis sank. They didn't need to know any plumbing, hydraulics,
metallurgy, stonecarving, or architecture because they made their
bathrooms and castles by MAGIC! However, Muggles who visted wizards
and saw the nice things the wizards had, had to invent all that
technology in order to imitate the wizarding goodies.
The wizarding folk teach their children a lot of self-enhancing
falsehoods. For example, they teach their children that the reason to
keep magic secret from Muggles is to avoid being pestered by Muggles
wanting favors (and Hagrid, not having completed his education, still
believes that), when in reality the wizarding folk went into hiding
because they were scared of the Muggles attacking them. When it comes
to Magical History, I have more faith in Professor Binns's accuracy
than in Hagrid's. In CoS, Binns said: "You all know, of course, that
Hogwarts was founded over a thousand years ago - the precise date is
uncertain - by the four greatest witches and wizards of the age. The
four school Houses are named after them: Godric Gryffindor, Helga
Hufflepuff, Rowena Ravenclaw, and Salazar Slytherin. They built this
castle together, far from prying Muggle eyes, for it was an age when
magic was feared by common people, and witches and wizards suffered
much persecution." Let me repeat: "witches and wizards suffered much
persecution."
Another example is that they teach their children that Muggles use
technology to imitate what wizards do by magic. Technology probably
*started* that way, Muggles trying to figure out how to make
bathrooms and castles and swords like the wizards had ... this may
have remained true up to the Steam Age, with Muggles inventing
horseless carriages to imitate the horseless carriages that carry
students from Hogsmeade Station to Hogwarts, inventing railroads to
imitate wizarding self-propelled wagons like at Gringotts, gaslight
to imitate the magical self-lighting candles on the wall of wizarding
houses ... but by then the discovery and invention of science and
technology had become self-propelling themselves, and with
Electricity, Muggles went on to invent things that the wizarding folk
copy. The Wizarding Wireless Network is obviously an imitation of
Muggle radio, because it's named after "wireles", the British Muggle
name for radio. The wizarding folk would have no other reason to name
it "wireless", because they didn't have a preceeding technology named
"wire" (the telegraph).
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