I Don't See a Problem with OGG

Steve <bboy_mn@yahoo.com> bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 18 04:44:27 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 50025

Okay, nobody else is posting so, let me ask a few question about OGG -
The GroundsKeeper. 

Someone in the OT group need a link describing the diffences between
the UK and US editions of the book, so I looked it up in the Lexicon
and gave them the link, which is how I happened to be reading about
the various unsolved mysteries in the HP series. Obviously, from my
subject heading, this has to do with OGG - the GroundKeeper as his
mention in the book relates to Arther and Molly's age. 

Frankly, I never saw any controversy here. Although, the Lexicon has
it built up to the point where they speculate there are Two Timelines
running.

http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/puzzles2.html

To read the article, select the above ling and go to the subject heading
"When did Arthur and Molly Weasley attend Hogwarts?"

A brief quote from the article-
" ...Molly Weasley fondly recalls a man named Ogg being the
groundskeeper when she went to Hogwarts. Now she's older than Sirius
and Lupin, granted, but not so much older that she would have gone to
Hogwarts before Hagrid and Tom Riddle, which was fifty years ago. ..."

I don't understand where they get the idea that Arther and Molly can't
have gone to Hogwarts around the same time as Hagrid. Hagrid, as of
the current book, is approximately 64 years old. To a muggle that's
old, but when you consider that Wizards live twice as long as Muggles,
that would make Hargrid early middle aged.

[I'm assuming that a wizard has a lifespan of 200 in the same sense
that a muggles has a potential lifespan of 100. Wizard could live
longer but for illustration the 100 and 200 year figures make the math
easy.]

So, in Muggle years, based on my assumption above, Hagrid is 32. 

I don't see any reason to think that Arther and Molly couldn't have
been in their Senior year of school or perhaps just out of school when
Hagrid was expelled. That would make the Weasley's 4 to 6 years older
than Hagrid. Let's assume the larger number (64 + 6 = 70). Relative to
a muggle lifespan, that would make Molly and Arther about 35. Still
very young wizards. 

I quess I don't understand why this person thinks that Molly and
Arther couldn't be 70. Given the extremely harsh punishment Arther got
when he and Molly were out until 4am for a nighttime stroll. I suspect
their time at Hogwarts was indeed a long time ago. Seventy, to us, is
pretty old, but that's very young to a wizard. If we estimate Bill's
age at roughly 30 in GoF, that would imply Molly and Arther had their
first child at age 40, which is not that unrealistic even for a
muggle, and they would have been age 20 relative to a muggle lifespan. 

I keep searching for the inconsistency, or the controversy, and I
can't find it. It all makes sense to me. 

Where is the a passage in the book that implys that Molly and Arther
couldn't be 70 years young?

bboy_mn









More information about the HPforGrownups archive