Voldie was not shocked

[Melody <Malady579@hotmail.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 50162

Star Opal wrote:
>I never said he _didn't_ have his wits about. If he didn't he'd be
>flying the handle and throwing around curses at random. I'm saying he
>is extremely angry, a little surprised, but not raving. He's smart,
>patient, and experienced enough to be quiet and threatening. When he
>says "obedience is a virtue..." he's being threatening not witty.

Ok I see where I misunderstood you.  I am sorry.  But I still do not
see how Voldemort's reaction shows how he did not know Harry could
throw off the imperius curse.

Before Voldemort used the imperius curse, he taunted Harry "softly"
and asked him if he wanted more pain.  Then after Harry threw off the
imperius, Voldemort asked "quietly" if Harry wanted more pain before
he dies.  Then after Harry ran behind the gravestone, Voldemort
taunted him so more in a "soft, cold voice."  I see no change there.
Now later on when prior incantatem happens, Voldemort is "shrieking"
and "shouting".  He is portrayed as being in shock then but not before.

I guess, from my viewpoint, *if* Voldemort did not expect Harry to
shake the imperius, Voldie would have reacted the way he did in prior
incantatem.  I mean, if Voldemort was truly planning on his imperius
to work, then it seems Harry's ability to throw it would be a shock
and a kink in Voldie's plans.  It did not even phase him.


Star Opal again:
>Let's see if I can describe what I meant better. Ever been in a room
>with someone who was really angry, so angry you can feel it? Even if
>its not directed at you, its VERY uncomfortable. The sheer tension,
>following my theory, at that moment when LV is all quiet must have
>been great. Its not until LV says "we're not playing hide and seek"
>that they start laughing again. The tension is gone now, its okay to
>be laughing underlings again.

Ok, I agree there is tension, but I see different reasons for it.  The
tension is not from the radiating anger from Voldemort.  He had that
already and was building it from the beginning.  The tension is from
the deadeaters themselves.  They were nervous.  They did not know what
Voldemort had planned that evening.  They were not sure what he was
thinking about Harry.  All they know is that Voldemort was clever
enough to capture the boy.

The deadeaters, after Harry threw the imperius, are wondering three
things.
1) Whether Voldemort fears Harry now.
2) Whether this development ruins Voldemort's plans for the evening.
Or rather, if Voldemort still has the upper hand.
3) Whether Harry is in fact strong enough to defeat Voldemort.  After
all, he has a broken leg, slashed arm, crucio'ed twice, and still he
has enough mental strength to throw Voldie's curse off.  That is very
rare.

After Harry hid behind the tombstone, all those questions are answered.
1) Voldemort retains his taunting and soft, quiet voice.
2) Voldemort still has control of the situation.  He has the upper hand.
3) Harry himself is running from Voldemort.  He does not appeal strong
enough to take Voldemort on.  He once again looks like a 14-year-old
boy.

So they relax again and laugh.

Maybe this run of lines can be interpreted in two ways, but I just
cannot see how the shock of imperius would not be as great as the
shock of prior incantatem.  Voldemort must not happen upon many that
can shake it let alone the same kid that stripped him from his body.
Why wouldn't Voldemort slightly fear Harry?


Melody