[HPforGrownups] Re: Ron in Cos (was Ron and the Trouble with Veela)

[Rebecca Stephens]

No: HPFGUIDX 50453


--- Taryn Kimel <amani at charter.net> wrote:
> golden faile:
> I was wondering, where in COS do we see evidence of
> Ron having an interest
> in Hermione?
> 
> Rebecca:
> I always felt that Rons taking up for Hermione when
> Malfoy called her a
> Mudblood in CoS was indicative of his true feelings
> for her.
> 
> Laila:
> Could be... but let me ask you this. If someone
> insults one of your best friends wouldn't you come
> to their rescue?
> 
> Rebecca:
> But this wasn't just one incident.  When Hermione
> was
> petrified and Malfoy made the comment about wishing
> she'd been killed and the bet the next one would be
> (pg 267 paperback US ed) he said he was going to
> kill
> Draco with his bare hands.  And, although Harry is
> probably upset, the text gives no indication of
> that. 
> And Ron kept trying to get loose from Harry and Dean
> for a while.
> 
> Harry didn't come to the rescue of one of his best
> friends.  Actually, I take that back; he came to the
> rescue of Ron.  Who knows what Snape would've done
> to
> him.
> 
> But Ron's action wasn't in defense of anyone.  It
> couldn't help Hermione.  It was just an emotional
> reaction.
> 
> Taryn:
> Because Ron is extremely tempermental, whereas Harry
> is /not/. Ron has to be held back MULTIPLE times.
> But Harry is one who has lived a lifetime of
> bottling up emotions and holding his temper. We
> don't see it break nearly so much as Ron's.
> 
> --Taryn
>

Actually, the first quote attributed to me is not
mine.

Secondly, there was no indication that Harry was
upset.  He may have been.  But usually we know what's
going on in his head, and here we didn't.

Personally, I think it's R/H all the way.  I think
many of their actions can interpreted as friendship,
but that upon reading GoF that's thrown out the
window.

On a separate not, ou have to understand that even
though I sometimes enjoy reading debate (and foolishly
contribute occasionally) I don't understand the it. 
To me R/H is obvious.  I see no H/H ambiguity.  It
just isn't there.

H/Hers do give quotes, but the interpretation of those
quotes does not make sense to me.  It's not thoat
those interpretations are impossible.  They just seem
so unlikely.  

To me it's like a hearing that a weight lifter picked
up a tremendously heavy object and began carrying it
across the room; he turns to his friend and says "give
me a hand."  He could mean "give me a round of
applause for my impressive show of physical strength"
but "give me some help here" is the obvious
interpretation.  Sometimes you have to look beyond the
obvious, but it often seems like the arguements are
stretching it.  (Note:  this particular comment does
not refer to interepreting the Ron's attacking moment
as friendship only but to the interpretations of the
Yule Brawl and of Hermione's avoiding Ron's eyes and
to various other seemingly obvious R/H moments).

I know my interpretation is not shared by all.  I
don't have a problem with that.



Rebecca

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