[HPforGrownups] What will come in book 5ish

Taryn Kimel amani at charter.net
Fri Jan 24 17:09:39 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 50500

Tzvi:
I'm sure this has been said a million times before, but does anyone think 
that Cedric will come back as a ghost? He had unfinished business, which is 
why most ghosts hang around. 

Me:
Well, the whole "unfinished business" bit about being ghosts has yet to be applied to Rowling's world:

Q. What makes some witches/wizards become ghosts after they die and some not?

A. You don't really find that out until Book VII, but I can say that the happiest people do not become ghosts. As you might guess, Moaning Myrtle!

(http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/author/transcript1.htm)

Cedric was popular, admired, nice... He seemed to been having a good time at school.

Tzvi:
As well, I think that Harry's fan will be Mr. Diggory. I believe the Diggorys 
truly believe what happened and that Harry did all that he could to help.

Me:
Mr. Diggory? Mr. Diggory who wildly accused Harry of producing the Dark Mark? Mr. Diggory who is obviously enveloped in his intense adoration of Cedric enough to be blinded by truth? I've seen parents like that in RL. They are so wrapped up in their children that they cannot see fault in them. And then, of course, Harry Potter stole Cedric's glory, causing great animosity from Mr. Diggory. No, I cannot see Mr. Diggory becoming a fan of Harry's at /all/, even if he /does/ believe that Cedric's death wasn't Harry's fault.

Tzvi:
I don't think that Hedwig will die; However, in recent discussions I believe 
that a phoenix will seek out Harry. If not, he will rescue one and Hedwig 
will take a backseat. If not, Hedwig will try and protect Harry. I don't see 
what you need an owl for in school anyways besides the mail. I don't think I 
would appreciate being turned into a pumpkin or poisoned. 

Me:
I think if /any/ phoenix becomes Harry's pet, it will be Fawkes. He already has a large connection to him. Right now, phoenixes have a large mysticism because we only see /one/ in the books. If they just started randomly showing up, they wouldn't be nearly so interesting. And what do you need an owl in school for? Hedwig is one of Harry's best friends. She's family.

Tzvi:
Petunia is a squib, Dudley will have some magic in him I think. Someone you 
wouldne suspect will come out.

Me:
I really dislike the Squib!Petunia theory, namely because Rowling herself seems to refer to Lily as muggle-born. (http://books.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4037903,00.html)

Tzvi:
We have also just learned about the Longbottoms. A question I have to ask is, 
the Death Eaters were searching for L.Voldermort and tortured the 
Longbottoms, after both elder Potters were killed. Why arent there any 
grandparent Potters? and Why didn't the Death Eaters head straight for Harry? 
Protected I guess. Dumbledore magic. Maybe the Longbottoms can be cured and 
they will come back.

Me:
My best guess is that there aren't any other Potters left because they were killed. Voldmort seemed pretty intent on killing blood Potters when he went after both James and Harry but told Lily to /step aside/.

As for the Death Eaters not going after Harry--I'd be running for it or getting myself out of suspicion ASAP. Sure, they've been having great fun, and I'm sure they all figured they'd be helping to rule the world with Voldemort, but their powerhouse just kicked the bucket. These aren't wonderfully brave people. These are people who are generally out to save their own skin.

However, I do very much subscribe to MALEVOLENCE--Lucius' large donations to St. Mungos has something to do with keeping the Longbottoms incapacitated to hide something they know. So I think we may very well hear from them one day.

Tzvi:
No Weasleys will die in any of the books. No one important will unless it's 
for a good cause. It would be stupid to kill off anyone except for Dumbledore 
or Harry. 

Me:
Fighting against Voldemort isn't a good cause? And there certainly is good cause in killing off others--to get at Harry. He's extremely well-protected, but all the people he cares for aren't as much.

--Taryn


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