Fourth Man Avery & Fourth Man Nott

amy_marblefeet <amy_marblefeet@yahoo.co.uk> amy_marblefeet at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Jan 25 23:08:14 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 50632

I know this post is a little late in coming but I would like to say I 
love this little rubber ducky of a theory you have here Ginger.  
Although I am extremely suggestible and the people on this list could 
probably convince me that my own mother was a Death Eater none the 
less your theory definitely holds water.

I would like to add some things, myself, on the similarities between 
the characters of Neville and Nott.

"What!" I hear you cry.  "Similarities between a cannon based 
secondary character who is complex and has subplots entangled with 
the primary characters with a character who doesn't even have a 
gender let alone a name.  Where are my yellow flags?"

Wait, I cry, hold you fire and hear me out.  While this may be cannon 
subversion in the extreme I have been reading too much about mirrors 
lately to pass up this chance to reflect and reverse Neville in Nott 
Jr and while I was reading your post the idea just jumped out of my 
head.

To begin I would like to make unknown!Nott a girl in Ravenclaw purely 
to reflect her with Neville (and because I am an incurable romantic) 
and call her Alison purely for ease.

The first thing that jumped out at me was the fact that Neville was 
raised by his grandmother after his parent's admission to St Mungos.  
Is it such a stretch of the imagination that, if your Third Nott 
Theory is correct, that Alison would have been raised by the Nott Sr, 
the one that turned up at the graveyard.  I don't think I could give 
the Alison a loony Aunt but I would stretch to a toad in the pet 
department.

Neville lost his parents minds to the Pensive four's torture.  
Perhaps Alison lost hers to the torture of Azkaban where the 
Longbottems put them.  Picture the scene; Notts parents are captured 
first time around, just after the fall of Voldemort and tortured for 
information by that famous Auror Frank Longbottem.  Sent to Azkaban 
the couple rotted and the mother of Alison died before the father was 
released, after they had both claimed Imperius.  This gives husband 
Nott a reason to go after the Longbottems which is completely removed 
from trying to find Vapormort.  That's why he stayed quiet at the 
hearing; the Lestranges did not have that excuse and so confessed, 
Barty Crouch Jr, well everyone thought he was just in the wrong place 
at the wrong time.  But Nott, he had lost his wife and had a toddler 
to bring up on his own, perhaps his father could get him off at a 
latter stage once Barty "fight fire with fire" Crouch Sr. had been 
succeeded.  Sadly Nott Jr. dies in prison before his fathers flowery 
words can save him, leaving his daughter to be brought up by her 
grandfather.

Ten years roll by and Nott and Neville are both sorted into 
Hogwarts.  Neville is placed in Gryfindor even though he doesn't 
think he should be there and feels he is under constant pressure to 
uphold the family name.  Nott is sorted into Ravenclaw (can I ask at 
this point: is this cannon fact or have we just deduced that Nott is 
in Ravenclaw?)  I wondered if Nott feels she should have been put in 
Slytherin like her family to uphold their honour.

Perhaps in the future if this rubber duckie becomes cannon supported 
in book five we will see Longbottem and Nott meet, two households, 
both alike in dignity. In fair Hogwarts, where we lay our scene, From 
ancient grudge break to new mutiny, Where civil blood makes civil 
hands unclean. From forth the fatal loins of these two foes...well 
you get my point.

I tried to come up with a scenario where Alison Nott's parents had 
had their souls sucked out by dementors and were now in the creepy 
east wing of St Mungos where all the other soulless bodies are 
dumped.  But I just couldn't get it to work.

Amy
(who just realises that the above makes not allot of sense and should 
probably just get back to her Algebra where, like Snape, she is 
putting 2 and 2 together but constantly geting 4.0001)







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