[HPforGrownups] Re: Ron and the Trouble with Veela

[Torsten]

No: HPFGUIDX 50858

Star Opal:
>Look at the next part of my message. No matter what, it still sounds like he 
>wasn't in control:

But you don't need Veela power to make a boy in puberty lose control. 

>> >Sounds like a spell to me. "I don't know what made me do it!" "... it 
>>sort
>> >of came over me..." "I just sort of came to my senses.."

Watch teenagers, especially boys just into puberty, and you will find many examples 
of them acting in a way which makes no sense, even to them afterwards. They've got 
fantasies, they want to believe something like Ron did can work.

(Darn it, I said the stupidest things to girls myself believing they were the right thing to 
say... *sigh*)

>LOL I just got this image of a Harry Potter outtakes. There's Fleur plotting 
>with the other Beauxbatons. "Leeve it to me girls! I will get ze 
>bouillabase!"

I can already see the ending of OotP in my mind...

"Ron," said Dumbledore, "I need you to contact your parents. Viktor, you will return 
to Durmstrang and organize the defense there. Hermione, Harry - we will confront the 
Death Eaters together. Fleur ... you know what I must ask you to do. If you are ready 
... if you are prepared ..."
"I am," said Fleur.
She looked slightly paler than usual, and her big, blue eyes glittered strangely.
"I will get ze bouillabaise."
"Then, good luck," said Dumbledore, and he watched, with a trace of apprehension on 
his face, as Fleur wordlessly left after Viktor.

>*clears throat* But I digress... I don't think she's doing it on purpose. I 
>agree, if she was so sneaky I don't think the Goblet would have chosen her. 
>I'm thinking that most the time, its a subconscious power, but she _can_ 
>increase it if she chooses.

But even this kind of increasing could be subconsiously. If you want to make a good 
impression on someone you fancy, you act a little differently than normal. In Fleur, it 
might trigger the FPSP (Fleur's possible special power).

This, that she's not aware of it or at least doesn't try to exploit it, is my main thing ... 
it's why I think all that enmity she gets (that's not directed at you, Star Opal) is way 
too exaggerated.

>I call part veela theory!
>[...]
>Part veela theory!

I counter PVT with "she is gorgeous". Both explain perfectly why the boys act 
strangely, but I prefer SIG because not everything in these books does have to have a 
second (or third, or fourth) meaning... As long as something can be explained normally, 
there's no need for spells or other powers.
And again, changing the strenght as well as the effect stretches the "only part Veela" 
thing a bit too much for my taste.

>*gives Trevor a wary glance* I'm telling you he isn't all he seems!

Of course not. He's the Heir of Hufflepuff.

>Star Opal
>who wraps herself in the Part Veela Theory tighter than a Beauxbaton with a 
>shall in winter.

We have reached a parting of the ways. You must explain as you see fit. And I - I shall 
explain as I see fit. (that's enough of misused quotes for now, I promise)

We could always discuss the state of mind of the other Beauxbatons girls that came to 
Hogwarts. They must feel worse looking at Fleur than jealous!Ron did looking at 
Harry. ^_~

Torsten