Thoughts on Dumbledore letting Voldemort into the school
Melody <Malady579@hotmail.com>
Malady579 at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 29 03:39:35 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 50954
Christopher wrote:
> We have been assuming that Dumbledore either did not know that
>Voldemort was concealed in Quirrell's turban or he allowed him to
>roam the school unchecked.
We do? I did not get that memo.
>Either of them is pretty bad from the side of Dumbledore's need to
>keep the children safe, but I did have three thoughts about why he
>might allow him to enter.
Yes, those views are pretty bad, but you cannot blame Dumbledore for
missing that fact no more than you can blame him for missing the
Crouch!Moody twist, can you?
Well that is a bit unfair. Quirrel did an awful job hiding his
changed status. Wearing a big purple turban. Oh yeah. *That* is
conspicuous. Wore garlic to hide the smell. Adopted a stutter.
Hmm...Dumbledore is a terrible spymaster if he missed all that.
Terrible indeed.
>1) We know the Quirrell talked to Snape (who, as we learn from book
> 4, was a DE and later a spy). Could part of the idea be to allow
> Snape a chance to get back into Voldemort's good graces?
Yes I think it can be. Snape's words are vague enough there to make
us believe he may still be on Voldie's side, so it may of convinced
Voldemort.
Except - Quirrell seemed to know better. He knew Snape was trying to
find out how far he had gotten and did try to beat him to the
obstacles. If Quirrel knew that, then given that Voldemort was
attached to his head, then Voldemort knew too. I guess Snape could do
some fancy footwork to explain away, but honestly...at this point, if
*you* were Voldemort and had at least one of your "servants" around
Snape ever since you left, would you believe him? I think not.
(Remember: Peter was the Weasley rat. He was at Hogwarts most, if not
the whole, time Voldemort was gone. So Voldie has accounts from
Peter, Quirrell, and Barty Jr. on Snape. Things do not look too good
for him.)
>2) What's keeping Voldemort on earth and not going to the next
> world? He says in book 4 that he nearly gave up hope. If he had,
> would he have vanished?
Well, I think Voldie was lying. He was trying to make Dumbledore
believe, once the info got back to him about what happened at the DE
graveyard party by way of Harry or someone else...the man *is* a
spymaster, that all the MoM had to do what find him. If they only had
found Voldie, then they could of killed him. What would of killed him
was the loss of hope.
Now come on! The loss of hope? Voldie clinging to the last whisps of
hope in his life. The hope that he too can be an evil overlord over
all the world. The hope that one of his loyal DE's will find him.
Please. That is not hope. Hope requires love, and Voldie has not a
drop of love for anyone. Well...maybe Nagini.
And the other reason, is to put guilt in the DE's heads. Guilt that
said, their master needed them, and they were not there. Another card
Voldie could play to give cause for his "pain" on them.
>3) could Dumbledore have been hoping that if Harry touched
> Voldemort, it would kill him for good? Therefore, he want to a
> great deal of trouble to get the two foes together in an
> all-or-nothing situation and keep them away from the rest of the
> school, just in case.
Yes! That is my theory. Did you just read my previous post? No not
that one, the one about the stone. Yes, that one. I completely
believe Dumbledore knows Quirrel is Quirrelmort. I also believe that
Dumbledore is trying to bring about Voldemort's downfall, and the only
thing that has worked on Voldie so far is Harry. So therefore,
Dumbledore is trying to orchestra the plan to bring them together,
away from the other school kids that cannot blister evil people with
their hands, and see if Voldie finally dies.
Unfortunately, he does not, but Dumbledore is there to save Harry.
How convenient really.
So, I say....Dumbledore had Voldemort right where he wants him. He
had him under watch and baited. Right where you want your enemy
really. Voldemort was no real threat to the students. I guess he
could of caused some problems, but that would blow his "cover".
Voldie was mind-bent on the stone. Dumbledore knew this. Dumbledore
used this. Yes, it was a bit of an elaborate plan, but not as much as
in the main of MD, and I have not problem making those leaps.
Melody
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