On diverse "mean" meanings (was; midget in glasses)
Falcon
falcon21 at flash.net
Wed Jan 29 22:26:10 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 51030
Jim Ferer>
> > "Saturn was surely in a position of power in the heavens at the
> moment
> > of your birth. . . . Your dark hair. . . your lowly, shabby
> > stature...tragic losses so young in life. . "
> >
> > Sounds more consistent with Trelawney's drift, no?
> >
> > Quotes have to be taken in context and account for where the
> speaker's
> > coming from. Since Trelawney always seems darn near disappointed
> > Harry is still breathing, why would she call attention to his
> > 'average' height?
> >
> > Jodel is right, and the literary meaning, as he well put it, is
> > clearly the correct one.
> >
> >
> >
> > Me: When refering to a person, Mean means average. When refering
> to streets, it means run down, shabby, bad part of town type thing.
> Good points, but "lowly, shabby" would be more suited to Ron. Harry
> may be parentless, but that don't mean he's a beggar. Harry has
> money, he has prestige, he has importance. "Lowly, shabby" don't
> apply to him. In this context she is refering to his physical
> description, ie... his physical form. Height, weight, hair
> color. "Dark hair" begins the sentence, showing that she is refering
> to his physical form.
"Lowly, shabby" wouldn't apply to his physical
> form, but rather to his station in life. The next sentence deals with
> his family or lack thereof. And, the reason she would call attention
> to his "average height" is this; How many of y'all caught that Harry
> has actually grown quite a bit since PoA. He always describes himself
> as short, and skinny, but in GoF, he dropped the "short" from his
> description of himself. Now, we have him no longer refering to
> himself as "short" then Trelawney points out his "mean stature." I'm
> sorry, but it seems like a lot of the readers missed that part, or
> took it to mean "small". How many of Harry's classmates would
> automatically know what "mean stature" meant? They probably took it
> as "small" as well.
> > Falcon
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