On diverse "mean" meanings (was; midget in glasses)

Falcon falcon21 at flash.net
Wed Jan 29 22:26:10 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 51030

Jim Ferer>
> >   "Saturn was surely in a position of power in the heavens at the 
> moment
> >   of your birth. . . . Your dark hair. . . your lowly, shabby
> >   stature...tragic losses so young in life. . "
> > 
> >   Sounds more consistent with Trelawney's drift, no?
> > 
> >   Quotes have to be taken in context and account for where the 
> speaker's
> >   coming from.  Since Trelawney always seems darn near disappointed
> >   Harry is still breathing, why would she call attention to his
> >   'average' height?
> > 
> >   Jodel is right, and the literary meaning, as he well put it, is
> >   clearly the correct one.
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   Me: When refering to a person, Mean means average. When refering 
> to streets, it means run down, shabby, bad part of town type thing. 

> Good points, but "lowly, shabby" would be more suited to Ron. Harry 
> may be parentless, but that don't mean he's a beggar. Harry has 
> money, he has prestige, he has importance. "Lowly, shabby" don't 
> apply to him. In this context she is refering to his physical 
> description, ie... his physical form. Height, weight, hair 
> color. "Dark hair" begins the sentence, showing that she is refering 
> to his physical form.

 "Lowly, shabby" wouldn't apply to his physical 
> form, but rather to his station in life. The next sentence deals with 
> his family or lack thereof. And, the reason she would call attention 
> to his "average height" is this; How many of y'all caught that Harry 
> has actually grown quite a bit since PoA. He always describes himself 
> as short, and skinny, but in GoF, he dropped the "short" from his 
> description of himself. Now, we have him no longer refering to 
> himself as "short" then Trelawney points out his "mean stature." I'm 
> sorry, but it seems like a lot of the readers missed that part, or 
> took it to mean "small". How many of Harry's classmates would 
> automatically know what "mean stature" meant? They probably took it 
> as "small" as well.
> >   Falcon






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