[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape and respect

Maria Kirilenko maria_kirilenko at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 30 01:01:27 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 51035


Tom wrote:
> I mean, come ON: Dumbledore PERSONALLY overturned
> the official results of the House Cup in PS/SS. Sure,
> WE know why that happened, and as readers who identify
> with Harry, WE'RE glad to see him win, but let's face 
> it - that is concrete and indisputable favoritism. 


Alla answered:
So, Harry and Co did not deserve the points for defeating 
Quirrelmort? I think that this was justice, not favouritism. Sure, 
Dumbledore could award points earlier and not make show out of it at 
the feast, but it does not change the fact that those points were 
earned, in my opinion.

Me:

I really have to agree with Tom here. HHR and Neville did deserve some sort of praise, maybe even in the form of points, but I think that assigning the exact number of points needed to win the House Cup was extremely blatant favouritism. Sure, it was wonderful to see it happen, and I do think that 150 points McGonagall took off Gryffindor were excessive, and that scene never fails to bring tears to my eyes, but it *was* demoralizing for *all* non-Gryffindor students, and it was demoralizing to Snape.

Dumbledore could have handled the situation with much more grace that he did.

Tom:

> That can be very demoralizing for kids, and I think
> that it was probably SUPER demoralizing for Snape.

Alla:

Bully for them, especially for Malfoy, who made the trio lose points 
practically for visiting Hagrid only. 

Me:

Umm, do I see Movie Contamination? In the book, if you remember, Harry and Hermione were charged with:

1. Being out of bed after hours;

2. Feeding Draco Malfoy with a story about a dragon so that he would get in trouble;

3. Luring Neville out of the common room, though not directly.

Did I forget anything? <g>

And, I'm sorry, but they were guilty of all those things, actually.

Neville *also* broke the rules, and he deserved punishment as well.

So, Draco Malfoy certainly did not make them lose all those points. They took a risk, and suffered the consequences.

Maria



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