House points and Dumbledore (a defence of my stance)
lindseyharrisst <lindseyharrisst@hotmail.com>
lindseyharrisst at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 30 19:55:11 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 51144
> > If DD was going to
> > award extra points (as has been said here countless times already)
> > and change the tally he had AMPLE time to do it before the
> > decorations went up.
Me: I quite agree. It's a little like the name of one star being in
the envelope on Oscar night and just as the announcement is made that
they are the winner, someone comes over and says, "oh sorry, we've
changed our minds, it's now A.N Other who has won". Leaving it that
late is NOT justified. Morally speaking we had passed the point at
which it was reasonable to voice objections and nominations should
have closed because that is what the putting up of decorations in
house colours means to a reasonable person, I think. I do not believe
that anyone but Dumbledore did this, as it was him who changed the
banners and I doubt anyone else would dare be that presumptious. Maybe
no one else even knew the total amongst the pupils unitl they got into
the hall. It'd be hard for any pupil, even one who cared enough to
spend ages doing it, to tally up every point given to a fellow and to
enquire of the other houses to establish a ranking system in advance.
> Then again, Dumbledore is not only giving the Gryffindors the house
> cup, he is making a point: that defeating Voldemort is something
> everyone should be ready to do, and that is something that Dumbledore
> will approve, and reward.
Me: Exactly why I said it was n't fair! The other's can't! At least
not in the same way Harry can do it personally.
> > His behaviour was deplorable. It embarrassed
> > Snape (no surprise there, we soon learn that's a favored hobby of
> > his), ticked off the Slytherins
Me:Yup.
Both Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw were as happy as Gryffindor with the
victory,
> and indeed they celebrated the defeat of Slytherin as much as
> Gryffindor celebrated its victory. They certainly didn't seem to have
> received any sort of blow (except a positive one) when they were
> clapping and shouting.
Well, that is not evidence of their agreement that Gryffindor deserve
it so much as a display of Shadenfreude. They were annoyed they had
lost and so it made the pill slightly less bitter that they had lost
to a friendly house not the Slytherins, who everyone hates. it was n't
particulary a moral endorsement of Dumbledore's values and priorities.
Also, one would care less about being changed from 3rd to 4th place
than one would about being moved from the top spot because they would
be used to the idea that they would get no prize or recognition that
would go down in the school's history.
Snapesangel xxx
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