OOP: ESE!Who? In retaliation to the ESE!Lupin theory

[spacemonkey_amn]

No: HPFGUIDX 66449

It's not really about OOP but it's gonna have spoilers...

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Hi! I only joined this list after reading OOTP ( which I loved btw and I'll
always cry for Sirius). I read the ESE!Lupin theory and it had me jumping
off the walls, banging my head on said walls, crying and go all desperate...
But crying and screaming sin't really productive so here's my theory: Remus
is NOT evil... Somebody else is.


Why Remus can't be ESE:

1 - He's Remuuuuuuuus!  [Not so much of a point] . But come ooooonnnn ,
Remus! [nope, still not a point]  Oooh Sh** **!

2 - He's a marauder- [So was Peter]. Sh** **!

3 - Remus is ESS ( and not ESE! he is ever so SEXY) [JKR never said so...
actually she said he's got grey hair and shadows under his eyes and-] Sh**
**! He's only got shadows after the full moon. Lots of young guys can have
grey hair and look dead sexy, example: Richard Gere didn't look so bad in
Pretty woman, neither does Mark Harmon... So Remus is ESS, you just need to
take him on a good day... [but being EES doesn't make you a good guy... Look
at Tom Riddle] Somebody's got duck tape?

4 - Remus was always nice: OOTP: he comforted Molly after the boggart
incident, and when she was sad about Percy. He defended Sirius against Molly
when she talked about Azkaban.and he went to the werewolf at the hospital
[ that was only survival instinct telling him to get as far away as possible
from Molly and Arthur... besides, he was probably only recruiting new
werewolf to voldemort's cause...] No, not in front of the order. You might
think Remus is ESE but he's not ever so stupid. No, really, I don't see him
as bad guy material[except that he's a werewo-] Silencio!

5 - In HP&POA: he was genuinely moved when he saw Harry's patronus being a
stag during the Quidditch match. Which means he really loved ( in a
brotherly kind of way) James. Ditto in HP and OOTP: he was really moved when
Sirius went through the veil ( voice breaking, hard to talk...) so he did
care about him.

6 - He doesn't have dangerous creature as pets, he only captures them for
his DADA lessons. He doesn't kill them afterwards, he gives them to Hagrid
because he *knows* Hagrid just loves taking care of dangerous creatures

7 - How did Lupin know he hadn't eaten the hippogriff in POA: first we don't
know how much Remus usually remembers in the morning. (I don't think we do,
at least), he might go totally out of his mind during the fool moon but
remember what happened in the morning... Second, even if Remus usually never
remembers anything in normal circumstances, he did take Snape's potion
except for the last day, so maybe, even if that didn't prevent him from
going totally beserk, it helped him remember a few things in the morning...
Third, even if he had no memory whatsoever about what happened that night,
if he woke up feeling hungry and with no blood on himself or in his mouth,
that might give him a clue that he didn't eat an entire hippogriff.

8 - HP&OOTP: Remus prevented Harry to go through the veil... why would he if
was really a bad guy... he could have just been a little slow to react and
let Harry go and pooof! no more Harry. So why did he save Harry? 'cause
Voldemort needed the prophecy? but he needed the prophecy because he thought
it was a how-to-kill-harry prophecy, did he not?





If we're gonna play the ESE game then why couldn't it be HAGRID? (not that I
really believe it,  but better him than Remus).it's just desperate me trying
to lay the blame on somebody else so that there's no chance of this actually
being true but:

0 - OK, Hagrid seems like a nice chap and all.. but so did fake Moody, in
his own kind of way.

1 - HP&GOF: Hagrid is half giant, which doesn't make him 'bad' but makes him
a victim of prejudice from the WW and so he can be resentful, which gives
him a motive

2 - HP&COS: Hagrid was wrongfully accused by the WW to have opened the
chamber of secret, got expelled from Hogwarts and had his wand snapped and
he was sent to Azkaban... another reason to be resentful...

3 - Hagrid does have dangerous pet creatures: dragons, three headed dogs,
giant spiders and so on... and that's cannon

and also, Is Hagrid that trustworthy?

4 - HP and the PS: he told Quirrel how to get past Fluffy and so helped
Voldemort getting to the philosopher's stone

5 - HP&PS: Hagrid kept giving clues to Harry and Co about what was really
going on about the philosopher's stone, which later lead them to the search
for it and face Voldemort.

OK, Hagrid could just be an idiot with his heart in the right place but his
brain having taken a vacation miles away and an overworking mouth... Or he
could just be working for Voldemort.

6 - HP&PS: Hagrid lead Harry, Hermione, Ron and Draco to the forbidden
forrest, Left Harry on his own with Draco... And Harry got to  face
Voldemort!!! Hadn't it been for Firenze, Harry would be dead by now.

7 - HP&COS: Hagrid has dangerous pets...He even lead Harry and Ron to one of
his dear pet's lair. Follow the spiders, HA! If it weren't for Arthur's car,
they would be both spider meat by now ( and that would be a shame because
the series would have ended there without us ever meeting either Remus or
Sirius)

8 - HP & COS: Hagrid has some funny business in knockturn alley

9 - HP&GOF: Hagrid never once put Harry's life in danger ( that I can
remember of)... he even tipped him off on the dragons... thus helping him
get to the GOF. Just when Lord Voldemort needed Harry so much for his return
to power, and when he needed Harry to get to the GOF.

10 - HP&OOTP: Hagrid failed to rally the giants to Dumbledore's cause. Of
course, the task was difficult to begin with, and just because he failed, it
doesn't make him a bad guy. But he could haved failed on purpose. Helped
with the rebellion and all. And afterwwards there was that whole period
where he was wandering alone, for a very long time without madame Maxime...
Who knows what's he been up to. OOOoh and bringing a giant agains his will
on Hogwarts ground... a sure way to piss said giant and make him more
violent... And then bringing hermione and Harry to see him while everyone is
busy with the Quidditch game

11 - Dumbledore trusts Hagrid with his life (book 1), the bigger the trust
the bigger the betrayal... And he also trusted Moody in GOF, until he
realized that moody wasn't moody but Crouch.


There could be more incriminating clues but I can't think of them at the
moment. So there, if anyone is going to be ESE it's gonna be Hagrid, not
Lupin! MWAHAHAHA!

OK, I know, there are probably also a lot more arguments to say that hagrid
is just a nice guy but...


Spacemonkey =) who does not believe one second that Remus could be a
traitor...

Umbridge is not your friend.
Umbridge is nobody's friend.
If Umbridge were a medecine, Umbridge would be a suppository.


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