Other LV relatives; Belletrix, Narcissa & Sirius (was: Wizarding Relations)
Genevieve
ayeka at bellsouth.net
Tue Jul 1 21:24:10 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 66553
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That isn't quite true. Let's say that it is on his mother's
father's side that he is related to Slytherin (since his mum was
said to have given him the middle name "Marvolo" after her father).
There's still his mother's mother's family. He could have a whole
slew of relatives through that relationship, and while they wouldn't
also be related to Slytherin, like him, they WOULD be related to Tom
Riddle/Voldemort. So there's no reason to believe that Voldemort
couldn't have distant cousins and great aunts/uncles through the non-
Slytherin-related relatives. I still don't think that Harry is
related to him, nor Sirius, though. I'm not sure what purpose this
would serve.
<snip>
I suppose it "could" be possible in a very minute way, seeing as all
pure blood families are intermixed because in order to stay pure
blood you must marry pure blood. That being said, JKR has already
shot down any notion of Voldemort being related to Harry, as
how "Star Wars" that would be. As for Sirius, we got a really good
look into his family tree in this book, I don't think he's related
to Voldemort, because I think that would shine brightly perhaps on
the tree.. although because Voldemort is half-blood that may not be
true because Black is a pure blood family..
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For that matter, I felt rather like Narcissa Malfoy being born
Narcissa Black was just conceived of for this book, purely for the
purpose of Kreacher considering her to be family, so he could go off
and use the excuse that he was still with a family member to whom he
was supposed to be loyal. After all, Harry gives fairly good
descriptions of both Bellatrix Lestrange (nee Black) and of Narcissa
Malfoy (nee Black) in GoF, and they don't seem like they could
genetically be full sisters. Belletrix is described as having very
dark coloring, whereas Narcissa has very fair hair (and, I think,
light eyes, but I'd have to check GoF again--if she doesn't have
light eyes, it would be against the odds for her son to have
inherited his father's light eye color). I think putting all of
these people into the same family was probably a last-minute affair,
and something I found to be a little irksome (although not as much
as using the tapestry to communicate the info about the family tree).
<snip>
Again, I have to disagree on this. Sirius is the cousin of
Bellatrix and Narcissa, not siblings. So it is quite easy to
explain the differences between them and Sirius feature wise. Even
siblings can look fairly different. I know in my family I don't look
much like my siblings, 2 of my sisters have blonde hair and blue
eyes, while I have brown hair and green eyes. If you go out farther
and look at compairing cousins, I have cousins with red, blonde,
brown, and black hair, green, brown, hazel and blue eyes. So
saying that it is impossible for them to be cousins is rather
silly. Its like saying, its impossible for people with blonde hair
and blue eyes to have a child with green eyes and brown hair. Then
if you want to talk skin tone, while my skin is olive toned, both my
blonde haired sisters have fair skin. So I say, JKR knew ahead of
time the connection between Bellatrix, Narcissa and Sirius. Also,
via the family tree, Sirius and Arthur Weasley are 2 cousins once
removed (or something like that) and Arthur has red hair and fair
skin, opposed to Sirius's dark hair and I would think olive skin
tone.
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Another thing, from PoA, which makes it seem that JKR hadn't thought
all along of Narcissa being Sirius' cousin, is the way Draco Malfoy
talks about Sirius, especially when he's suggesting to Harry that HE
would go and hunt down Sirius himself if he were in Harry's shoes.
In light of OotP it just doesn't ring true. If Draco Malfoy were
related to Sirius Black, he'd probably be gloating to Harry about
how his cousin had fooled Harry's stupid parents into thinking he
was their friend, before handing them over to Voldemort, and that he
hoped Sirius, his cousin, got away scot-free.
<snip>
I think someone has already said it, but Sirius was disowned when he
was 16 because he didn't follow along with the pure-blood is better
mentality. That being said, Draco probably has no idea that he is
related to Sirius in any way. Besides Draco only said that stuff to
Harry because he's constantly pushing to get Harry in trouble, hurt
or killed. Just IMO.
Also, JKR has a road map she did before she started writing of the
basic path for the story to go, I think she very much thought out
the details, more so than she is give credit.
Gen
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