OOP: It is Snape's fault!!!!

Jeremy jeremy_t_williams at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 1 21:55:12 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 66562

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srsiriusblack wrote:

>"However, I think there was a motive to what Snape did. He KNEW 
>Harry would look into the Penseive. He knew Harry would see a moment 
>of his father acting as the ass.  The main point, though I think was 
>to give Harry a reality check."

Good point.  Also remember that the point of the pensive is to store 
memories, which are not always accurate.  It is entirely possible 
that Snape didn't remember the events EXACTLY as they played out in 
reality.  True, Sirius and Lupin confirm Harry's queries on the 
subject, but they don't know exactly what they saw.  For that matter, 
in my opinion, anything seen in the pensive (except for those 
memories of Dumbledore's) should be seen as mere interpretations of 
past realities, not exact records.


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, srsiriusblack at a... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/1/2003 4:13:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
riberam at g... writes:
> 
> > Harry arrives in his office, then put the pensieve away and then 
> > welcome Harry for his class, and the same at the end, wait for 
Harry to 
> > leave before getting those memories back. So yes, Harry did 
> > something 
> > very wrong, but i think in a way Snape provoked him.
> > 
> > That's my point. Any thoughts?
> 
> Firstly, let me state again, that I still think Snape is pretty 
sexy and I love the way his character is developing. Do we trust him 
or not? Do we love him or loathe him? Is he evil or good? These make 
for a very intriguing and sexy character for adults. ( Esp anyone 
with a 'bad boy' complex)
> 
> However, I think there was a motive to what Snape did. He KNEW 
Harry would look into the Penseive. He knew Harry would see a moment 
of his father acting as the ass. He also knew that this might just 
taint Harry's perception of James as a Saint-like figure. Also, this 
moment perpetuates Snape's ideas of Harry being 'above the rules' and 
untrustworthly. 
> 
> The main point, though I think was to give Harry a reality check. 
All he has ever heard of his father have been stellar things. 
Everyone loved James. James was such a wonderful person. They see 
James in Harry. Etc. No one is that Saintly. Harry needed to see that 
sometimes people aren't always how they are perceived and that Snape 
has every reason in the world to dislike James. ( I think anyone who 
was ever tormented in school woul agree that these memories stay with 
you and unless you let go of them, you never get past them.... Snape 
obviously hasn't) Perhaps Harry will catch on that for Snape, seeing 
Harry everyday is like seeing James as a student.
> 
> Is it fair to Harry? No. But, it *does* explain a great deal about 
Snape's attitude towards Harry.
> 
> -Snuffles, still awaiting ressurection from behind the veil





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