OOP: Grimmauld Place/In Defense of Harry and Molly

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Wed Jul 2 01:23:42 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 66628

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <linlou43 at y...> wrote:
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>    greatlit2003 wrote:
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> > Was Sirius's mother born into the Black 
> >family? Her portrait kept referring to 12 Grimmauld Place as 'the 
> > house of my fathers'. If she was born a Black, why does Sirius 
> have 
> > her last name and not his father's?
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> Me(Linda):
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>  I actually wonder if 12 Grimmauld Place belonged to the Black 
> family in the first place. Could it be that Sirius's mother was the 
> last of another line of pureblood wizards and once married to Black 
> they moved into *her* ancesteral home? The only names on the 
> tapestry that we are given surnames for are Belatrix, Narcissa, the 
> Malfoys and the surname of Tonk's muggle father. We really don't 
> know anything about *Mommy dearest's* family at all.  If she is the 
> last of her family, it would explain her maniacal drive to keep the 
> family name of her husband pure. It would be the only name she has 
> left. 
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>   Izaskun wrote:
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> >  when Harry meets Dudley
> > before the Dementor's attack. He really wants his cousin to give 
> him an
> > excuse to fight him, to use his magic wand against him, he's so 
> angry and
> > frustrated that he feels the only thing that would help him is 
> jinxing
> > Dudley, and had the Dementor's not appeared I'm not so sure he 
> wouldn't have
> > cursed Big D.
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 Me again:
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>  I really don't think Harry would have attacked Dudley. When 
> thinking about the possible fight with D's gang, he only considers 
> using the wand if one of the boys starts to hit him. He is in 
effect 
> half wishing for something he doesn't really want to happen (IMO).  
> When D and his friends don't notice Harry he resists the urge to 
> call after them. He even reminds himself that he must not use magic 
> because he does not want to risk expulsion. As far as Harry 
> threatening Dudley with the wand, Harry doesn't bring it up, Dudley 
> does. He taunts him about thinking he's a "big man carrying that 
> thing". Only then does Harry pull out his wand. That taunt probably 
> saved both Harry and Dudley's lives.
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> 
>  I also wanted to comment on the thread involving Molly's 
> shortcomings. Over the last few months I have seen quite a few 
posts 
> theorizing the death of a Weasley child during the first war. In 
the 
> recent thread someone(sorry I tried to find it) mentioned that this 
> could account for Molly's overprotective behavior. I don't discount 
> this idea; indeed I find it highly plausible. However, IMO, it 
> wouldn't be necessary. Isn't the fact that she lived through the 
> terror of Voldemort's rise to power with seven young children 
> enough? Especially since her husband, who I'm sure was even known 
> then as a muggle lover, worked at the ministry? She probably felt 
> like her entire family was a target the entire time VOldemort was 
in 
> power. That kind of daily fear can change the way you live the rest 
> of your life.
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> 
> just my two knuts- Linda

AGREE WITIH LINDA:
Ditto on Harry jinxing Dudley.
As to Molly's over protective behavior, alot of mom's are over-
protective....its a mom thing.  If there had been a Weasley child 
killed in the first war, I think it would have come out.  It's too 
important.  Ron would have Harry about it.
Fran





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