OoP - Dumbledore's true sorrow motives

alexcukier acukier at uol.com.br
Wed Jul 2 15:47:53 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 66778

Well, I'm back to write down my theory about Albus Percival Wulfric 
Brian Dumbledore sorrow, his weakness moments with Harry in OoP, and 
his worries about the prophecy.

Let's go:

I always kept a look on Dumbledore. Of course I don't believe he is 
evil. I can see how noble his ideas and acts are to all WW. He had 
managed Hogwarts from 1970 (according to HP-Lexicon site). Before, he 
taught Transformations at least between 1942 (CoS) and 1956 (in OoP 
McGonagall says she has teaching Transformations for "39 years in 
december". So, 1995-39=1956). He discovered the 9 uses of Dragon 
Blood (PS/SS). He's admired by lots of people. He defeated 
Grindelwald, a very dark wizard, in 1945. But...

In my opinion, as I wrote before 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/59222):
--Me, Alex Cukier:
--"I have a feeling that beyond the evil x good, prejudice x 
friendship, one of the most important motivations for Dumbledore is 
that HE FEELS GUILTY about actual scenario in the Wizard World."
--Grey Wolf, that time replied:
--"Ummm... while it seems a nice theory, do you have any canon to 
back it up? I myself have never seen Dumbledore as a guilty 
consciense, just as someone that is fighting yet another war against 
yet another evil wizard, and is getting tired of it all. But as I 
say, it's a good theory, let's see what we can milk from it.

Well, Grey Wolf (and all other HP for Grownup mates), we HAVE THAT 
CANON KNOW!!!
Of course we can have the explanation that Dumbledore gave to Harry: 
there was a flaw in his plain of keeping secret about the 1st 
Prophecy of Trelawney. Of course Dumbledore feels a little guilty by 
not stop Tom Riddle when the last one was a student. But know I can 
develop much more this "strange feeling I have that Dumbledore is 
guilty somehow". Read it and tell me if I'm too nut:

THEORY

1) Dumbledore hear Trelawney prophecy in the first semester of 1980 
at Hog's Head.
"THE ONE WITH THE POWER TO VANQUISH THE DARK LORD APPROACHES... BORN 
TO THOSE WHO HAVE THRICE DEFIED HIM, BORN AS THE SEVENTH MONTH 
DIES... AND THE DARK LORD WILL MARK HIM AS HIS EQUAL, BUT HE WILL 
HAVE POWER THE DARK LORD KNOWS NOT... AND EITHER MUST DIE AT THE HAND 
OF THE OTHER FOR NEITHER CAN LIVE WHILE THE OTHER SURVIVES... THE ONE 
WITH THE POWER TO VANQUISH THE DARK LORD WILL BE BORN AS THE SEVENTH 
MONTH DIES..."

2) Someone listen to the first part (from "The one..." 
until "...seventh month dies..."

3) Dumbledore realizes that Voldemort is informed about that part and 
decides to protect the two "pregnant couples" in The Order of the 
Phoenix that match exactly with the prophecy. Lily Potter and Alice 
Longbottom are already pregnant. Frank Longbottom and his wife are 
Aurors, maybe they don't agree with that protection. They have a lot 
of work to do during that terror years, or they don't believe in 
Trelawney Seer powers, or whatever - they only agree to take his baby 
(Neville) to Dumbledore's care (personally, or being Secret Keeper of 
his location - probably Neville's grandmother).

4) Dumbledore start the same plane with the Potters. They agree: 
maybe they were not Aurors, maybe they keep more important secrets of 
the Order of the Phoenix. Dumbledore prefers not being the Secret 
Keeper of both children - it's too risk. DUMBLEDORE BELIEVE THAT 
NEVILLE IS "THE ONE" BECAUSE ALL OF THEM ARE PUREBLOODS (or just 
instinct, or any other explanation). AND DUMBLEDORE BELIEVE THAT 
VOLDEMORT WILL PROBABLY CHOOSE ATACK PERSONALLY THE BABY OF A HALF-
BLOOD, JUST LIKE HIMSELF. He suggests (or agree with) Sirius being 
the Potters' Secret Keeper. All that results in Sirius-Pettigrew 
change (not even known by Dumbledore) and we know what happened after.

5) AND DUMBLEDORE WERE RIGHT. Voldemort prefers attack personally the 
Potters, using the information of his spy. He send some of his most 
qualified Death Eaters (The Lestranges" to take Neville. They go 
there, but Frank and Alice don't know where Neville is. They fight, 
Bellatrix and Rodolphus torture the Longbottoms until they get crazy. 
But Dumbledore has protected "The One" - Neville Longbottom.

6) With the information of what happened to The Longbottoms, 
Dumbledore confirms that the Potters were V's personal attack. He 
sends Hagrid to check the damage and get the baby Harry, BECAUSE HE 
KNOWS HARRY IS STILL ALIVE. Why? Dumbledore know that Lily was good 
in charms AND DUMBLEDORE TAUGHT HER AN ANCIENT MAGIC JUST IN CASE OF 
VOLDEMORT ATTACK THEM (GoF, Chapter 33): "His mother (Lily) left upon 
him the traces of other sacrifice...This is ancient magic, I should 
have remmembered it..." - Voldemort. THIS ANCIENT MAGIC DUMBLEDORE 
AND FEW PEOPLE KNEW SAVED HARRY. When Voldemort used Avada Kedavra on 
Lily, the magic started to work. After that, when Voldemort used on 
Harry, he "vaporized", AND HARRY SURVIVED WITH A SCAR, FORGED NOT BY 
VOLDEMORT, BUT BY LILY/DUMBLEDORE'S ANCIENT MAGIC. Why? BECAUSE BY 
MARKING HARRY, THE WRONG BABY  WOULD BE THE MAIN TAG OF DEATH EATERS 
AND VOLDEMORT HIMSELF, WHEN HE EVENTUALLY COME TO FULL POWER AGAIN!  
As Dumbledore says later, in OoP Chapter 37:
"I KNEW NOT WHETHER IT WOULD BE TEN, TWENTY OR FIFTY YEARS BEFORE HE 
RETURNED, BUT I WAS SURE HE WOULD DO SO, AND I WAS SURE, TOO, KNOWING 
HIM AS I HAVE DONE, THAT HE WOULD NOT REST UNTIL HE KILLED YOU."
And Dumbledore knew he was putting Harry in danger in the future, but 
if he could develop Neville Longbottom's powers before Voldemort 
come  back, everyone could be safe. The most important thing know 
were PROTECT NEVILLE LONGBOTTOM AND KEEP EVERYBODY'S EYES ON "THE BOY 
WHO LIVED".

7) Dumbledore's plan was working perfectly. As Dumbledore says later, 
in OoP Chapter 37: "WHAT DID I CARE IF NUMBERS OF NAMELESS AND 
FACELESS PEOPLE AND CREATURES WERE SLAUGHTERED IN THE VAGUE FUTURE, 
IF IN THE HERE AND NOW YOU WERE ALIVE, AND WELL, AND HAPPY". 
Of course Frank, Alice, James and Lily were not nameless or faceless -
 but they were working for  The order of the Phoenix, and they would 
give their lifes to defeat Voldemort. The same logic Dumbledore 
probably used that time: the most important thing is to protect 
Neville and Harry, even with the sacrifice of their parents, in order 
to defeat definitely Voldemort.

8) As described in OoP, Chapter 37, when Harry comes from Muggle 
World to Hogwarts,  it was important to help Harry, "the sacrifice's 
lamb", and keep WW attention to him. "Vapormort" still believes he 
is "The One". BUT HARRY  STARTED TO SHOW AMAZING POWERS NA DEFEAT 
VOLDEMORT YEAR AFTER YEAR. DUMBLEDORE STARTED TO REALIZE THAT MAYBE 
HARRY COULDE BE "THE ONE", BUT HE COULDN'T ACCEPT HIS MISTAKE. Then, 
he comes with this "error-not-telling-Harry-about-the-prophecy" 
worries. HE WAS FOOLING HIMSELF.  Neville, instead, shows himself 
very limited magical gifts (Herbology), until OoP. Even know, he is 
not as developed as lot of his mates.

9) CONCLUDING: DUMBLEDORE, INTHE END OF BOOK FIVE, SHOWS HE SHOULD BE 
WRONG POINTING TO EVERYONE THAT HARRY IS "THE ONE", MARKING HIM WITH 
THE SCAR, EVEN PERMITTING, WITH THE ACIENT MAGIC, THAT HARRY AND 
VOLDEMORT CREATED SOME KIND OF LINK - TOO STRONG EVEN TO DUMBLEDORE 
FULLY COMPREHEND.

10) DUMBLEDORE FEELS THAT MAYBE WAS HE THE PERSON WHO MAINLY HELPED 
THE PROPHECY TO BE FILLED: HE CHOSE THE WRONG BABY, HE MARKED THE 
WRIGHT ONE, HE CURSED THE LIFE OF HARRY GIVING HIM TO THE DURSLEYS TO 
PROTECT HIS "SACRIFICE LAMB", WHILE HE TRIED TO DEVELOP NEVILLE'S 
POWERS. DUMBLEDORE HAS CHOSEN THE EASY WAY (GIVE VOLDEMORT A RED 
HERRING - "HARRY IS THE ONE"), NOT THE RIGHT ONE: PROTECT BOTH BABYES 
THE SAME WAY.







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