OOP Why are some poor... (and some burning questions)

jsmithqwert jsmithqwert at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 2 21:12:59 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 66865

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ugadawg02" <ugadawg02 at y...> 
wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> 
wrote:
> > Reductor curse will blast through solid object; that should do 
it. A
> > Stunning curse at close range would probably have a lethal 
impact ...
> >  bboy_mn
> 
> 
> 
> >    
> >   Is this then the curse that was used on Hermonie? 
> > 
> 
> bboy_mn:
> No, I just checked the book. It says a purple flame flashed across
> Hermione's chest. The Stunning Cuse is always RED.
> 
> 
> > Yes everything must be created from nothing, but what about 
things 
> > like the chairs Dumbledore has created in the past, some of them
> > seem to have lasted a full meal, is there any length of time that 
> > these are created from nothing objects can last or does it depend 
on
> > the power of the one casting it?
> > 
> > -RJ
> 
> The time span for which a conjured item last seems to be variable, 
so
> I conclude that a powerful wizard with powerful magic can control 
the
> lifespan of a conjured object to some extent.
> 
> Also, it's difficult to tell when something is conjured in the story
> and when it is simply 'transferred'. I've used this example many
> times; Dumbledore make hundreds of squashy purple sleeping bags 
appear
> in the Great Hall just before he and the other teachers go off to
> search the castle for Sirius Black. So did he conjure those from
> nothing, or did he simply transfer them from the room where they 
were
> stored to the Great Hall? Personally, I say they were transferred. 
> 
> The chairs could have been the same. When he makes a chair appear 
for
> Prof. Trellawney at the Christmas Feast, that could have been
> transferred from his office. When he made chairs appear at Harry's
> hearing in the lasted book, those were only used a short time, so 
they
> could have been conjured from nothing, or they could have been
> transferred from some other location in the Minstry of Magic.
> 
> Simply because an object appear out of nowhere doesn't mean it was
> conjured. 
> 
> Another example, I like to use is Molly cooking for Harry, Hermione,
> and the rest of the Weasley family at the Burrow. The points her 
wand
> into a pot and a white sauce appears. White sauces are typically 
very
> heavy and very rich, so that could have been conjured, but potatoes
> that were peeling and chopping at the same time were probably real. 
A
> good magic cook would probably combine a blend of real and conjured
> food to create a meal that was tasty, healthy, and nourishing.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> bboy_mn

I agree that most examples of conjurring we have seen are actually 
something like transferrence or insta-summoning.  JKR has said that 
you cannot conjur yourself wealthy; therefore, I think there are 
relatively few conjurable items and that most conjuring is 
transference.  Alternatively, is it possible that a powerful wizzard, 
especially Dumbledore who is a former transfiguration teacher, could 
transfigure the air into a chair or some other object?

jsmithqwert





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