OOP: Land of the Dead
minetourjunkie
sarah_wendling at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 4 04:36:57 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 67284
Hello,
Well here's my first post having just joined the list. I would have
posted sooner but was trying to read all the messages first ...
sadly, my eyes have blurred and I've given up. So if this has been
said before - especially before I joined - apologies all around.
I was facinated by several points being brought up today, but for
this post, I'll focus on Death! Firstly, digger's thoughts about
Harry travelling to a Land of the Dead.
It reminded me of this interview with JKR in Entertainment Weekly
from around the release of GoF, where the interviewer asked about
Cedric's death and its parallels to Greek Mythology. Specifically
the Iliad and how the recovery Cedric's body is similar to Achilles
and Patroclus. Given this and a bevy of other examples of JKR's love
of Greek/Roman myth (names of people, for starters, Minerva, Remus,
etc.), I would think she's schooled in the whole issue of visits to
the Land of the Dead (or Deadland ... as it were). After all, one
marker of a classical hero is such a visit - Herakles did it, so did
Odysseus. So, if JKR is trying to place Harry into some sort of epic
tradition, a visit to the land of the dead would have a lot of
historical precident.
Kirstini said:
>I don't think that Harry, if he manages to get into DeadLand (great
>name. Do they have rides, do you think?) will manage to learn
>anything there of use to
> him whatsoever. He's on a forward trajectory, and this sort of
> communion with lost family can bring him pleasure, and temporary
> solace, but I doubt it can give him extra knowledge. It's like the
> Mirror of Erised in this sort of respect.
Digger replied:
> The point (ie my theory! post no 59498 ) of his going to DeadLand,
> is not for solace or to regret the past, but to get vital info from
> his parents, who were Unspeakables, about the different ways of
> dying, and how to use Love Magic.
I'm going to lean towards Digger's theory here. If he does wind up
going, I don't think that it will be a simple "live in the past,
commune with the dead" sort of thing. As I said, it is a heroic
tradition to go visit the dead and the knowledge gained is always
useful on the quest. The ghosts of the dead do provide knowledge -
but you don't get to pick who you visit. Maybe he'll even wind up
talking to other wizards entirely. Having that veil floating around
seems to point that an entrance does exist. Of course, she may not
use this at all - it's not like she's using classical mythology as a
blueprint here. But it would make it easier for me to justify Harry
Potter as an epic to my former classical studies prof ... :)
And by the way, I'm sure a scholar somewhere has picked up on all
this. Anyone have a direction to some papers to point me in?
Cheers,
Sarah
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