Origins of the Founders (British Geography input needed) (No OOP at all)
nb100uk
nina.baker at uk.faulding.com
Fri Jul 4 09:53:17 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 67322
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ali" <Ali at z...> wrote:
> Pip!Squeak the birthday girl wrote:-
>
> Umm.. many may be unaware that Cornwall, which quite definitely
has
> moors, was the last bastion of Celtic England. The Cornish are
> Celts. Cornish, Gaelic, Irish and Welsh (and Breton) are members
of
> the same language group. It may be that the Four Founders don't
> represent modern England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales as much as
> they represent Celt, Dane, Anglo-Saxon and Scot - the four peoples
> who made up pre-Norman Britain.
>
> I like this solution much better than than the country split. IIRC,
> posters have previously suggested that Godric is a Cornish name. I
> would consequently place Godric's Hollow in Cornwall, and it is
> then at least possible to see why Hagrid flew over Bristol when
> taking baby Harry from Godric's Hollow to Little Whinging - even if
> it is not the most direct route.
>
> Placing Godric's Hollow in Cornwall has another advantage to me. If
> Ottery St Catchpole is near Ottery St Mary in Devon as I like to
> assume, then it places the Weasley's home relatively near to the
> Potter's home (certainly making them near neighbours by Wizarding
> standards anyway.
>
> If Wizarding families have stayed in the same general vicinity as
> their ancestors, then perhaps generations of Weasleys have
supported
> descendants of Gryffindor throughout the last Millenium. I accept
> that this is stretching the known facts, and it also flies in the
> face of "our choices" being important. But, JKR does seem to have
> generations of families following similar ideals as we have seen
> with the Blacks and Malfoys.There are black sheep in those families
> (pun intended) - ie family members like Sirius who have gone
against
> the grain so it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise to have
> generations of Weasleys upholding the Gryffindor ideal, and then
the
> odd exception such as Percy going in a different direction.
>
> Ali
I've always greatly preferred the Cornish idea for Gryffindor (BTW
spent my last 2 holidays there and it's wonderful). I'm also
attracted to this location because of it's deep seated connections
with Camelot, King Arthur and the Round Table legends (Tintagel is a
magical place - very highly recommended). Although Merlin is never
actually mentioned as a character in canon, some characters (peple
will have to provide evidence!) do say 'Merlin's beard!' and such.
As the four founders are timelined back to ?Norman conquest - approx
11th century, it's feasible that the Camelot legend which dates from
around 6th/7th century is a further link back to the origin of magic
in Britain. I like the idea of Merlin being the origin of all
magical people in Britain and Griffindor a direct decendent of him.
Nina
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