OOP: Boys & Girls in the Potter World

hogwartsgangsta kidfrom_brooklyn at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 4 13:29:47 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 67352

Im sorry but Cho is a slut!!! I cant believe she turned around and 
started going out with that Ravenclaw SOB.. Sorry if im offending 
anyone but come on!! how could she lead my boy harry on like that?! I 
hope something very bloody happens to Cho in the next book. Oh and 
let it be known that i think that something might just happen between 
Luna and Harry.. Catch my drift?



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "rachelbeth007" 
<rstephens at n...> wrote:
> Someone started this all with:
> So Ladies, how about Hermione and Cho? Did JKR capture the essense 
of the teenage 
> girl for you?
>  
>  Jenny:   
> > In a nutshell, Cho is 
> > quite a  realistic teen girl, and as someone mentioned, as pretty 
as 
> > she was, it wasn't enough to boost her self-esteem.  Very teen.
> 
> *** I would agree.  Cho does have a certain level of self-esteem, 
as she is obviously 
> smart, athletic, and popular.  However, JK nicely highlighted the 
Achilles heel of many 
> teenagers.  The friend of the opposite sex. I found Cho's 
insecurity when it came to 
> the friendship between Harry and Hermione very realistic for this 
age group (and it 
> certainly creeps up on adults too).  Although I think H/H are just 
friends, I can see 
> how a 16 year-old who doesn't see their interactions on a regular 
basis might feel 
> insecure about the nature of the H/H relationship.
> 
> 
>  > > Hermione - I adore Hermione but I couldn't relate to her then 
and 
> > > can't relate to her so much now.  I don't think any of my 
friends 
> > were both smart and incredibly confident the way Hermione is.  
Most 
> > of my friends worked extremely hard at school but often struggled 
> > with boys, worrying far more than Hermione seems to.  Teen girls 
can 
> > sit and analyze *every single* movement made by the cute boy.  I 
know 
> > I did  that endlessly, but Hermione seems not to be too bothered 
by 
> > what the boys think of her.  If she is bothered, she puts on the 
best 
> > act I've  ever seen.  If I was in her position and Ron spoke to 
me 
> > before and after the Yule Ball the way he did, I would have 
broken 
> > down and cried all night.  Hermione seems to shrug it off.
> 
> I would say I was very similar to Hermione in high school--driven 
academically and 
> not overly emotional or concerned when it came to boys.  However, 
it was still 
> possible for boy situations to get to me, even if I didn't spend 
endless time on the 
> phone with my friends analyzing everything a boy did.  I would have 
to disagree that 
> Hermioine just "shrugs off" the Yule balle affair with Ron.  Their 
argument was 
> definitely heated from both sides.  We don't know what Hermione did 
in the privacy of 
> her own room, so she could've very well had a bit of a cry.  My 
thought on Hermione 
> is that she doesn't daily get caught up in the guy stuff and go 
giggling about (like, 
> Lavendar and Parvati); however, this does not make her devoid of 
emotion interest or 
> emotion when it comes to boys.  She simply chooses to have an air 
of cool and calm, 
> but she does occasioanally let her guard down and show some boy-
related 
> frustration (Yule Ball, Ron being clueless about girls, etc). Most 
15 year-old girls 
> aren't like this, but I can certainly relate.
> 
> Darrin:
> > So, that's why I think she shrugged off Ron's tirade as 
> > easily as she did. And besides, she was right. Ron was being 
really 
> > unreasonable -- you snooze, you lose, pal -- and our girl 
Hermione is 
> > very confident when she knows she's right. 
> 
> Oh she knows she's right, but I still don't think that made it any 
easier.  Regardless of 
> whether she has feelings for Ron or Harry, Hermione's had to have 
been hurt that 
> neither one (particularly the one she likes) thought to ask her to 
the ball until so late 
> in the game.  Being an afterthought, especially to someone you 
like, is certainly no 
> picnic for anyone, even if you already have a date.  Publicly, you 
hold your chin high; 
> privately, you have a little cry.  
> 
> Jenny:
> > > Ginny - CoS and OoP Ginny are vastly different, even though I 
like 
> > > Ginny in both books.  Do 14 year olds really develop confidence 
so 
> > > quickly?  That I don't remember.
> Darrin:
> > Ginny reminds me of 14-year-olds at my school that somehow ALWAYS 
> > seemed to be dating guys at least three years older than them. I 
need 
> > to set up a clock to determine when that girl is legal.
> 
> I think Ginny's confidence really started to build during GoF.  
Sure, we really didn't 
> see this too much, but we did see subtle hints of the Ginny to 
come.  As much as I 
> hate to say it, perhaps she gathered some (not all of her) 
confidence from dating a 
> boy.  Realizing that even if one boy doesn't see you the way you 
want him to that 
> doesn't rule out the rest of the male population is a great lesson 
to learn.  I would 
> agree with Darrin that Ginny reminds me of those girls who were 
always dating older 
> guys in high school.
> 
> Note to Darrin:  Technically Ginny is already legal in the "real 
world."  Of course, she 
> is still underage in canon and doesn't actually exist in the "real 
world," but if adult 
> women can drool over Harry, Ron, etc. you should be able to do the 
same with Ginny.  
> No double standard here.
> 
> Rachel
> I love the 80s moment: "George Michael? Gay? Surely you jest."






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