OOP: Boys & Girls in the Potter World
hogwartsgangsta
kidfrom_brooklyn at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 4 13:29:47 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 67352
Im sorry but Cho is a slut!!! I cant believe she turned around and
started going out with that Ravenclaw SOB.. Sorry if im offending
anyone but come on!! how could she lead my boy harry on like that?! I
hope something very bloody happens to Cho in the next book. Oh and
let it be known that i think that something might just happen between
Luna and Harry.. Catch my drift?
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "rachelbeth007"
<rstephens at n...> wrote:
> Someone started this all with:
> So Ladies, how about Hermione and Cho? Did JKR capture the essense
of the teenage
> girl for you?
>
> Jenny:
> > In a nutshell, Cho is
> > quite a realistic teen girl, and as someone mentioned, as pretty
as
> > she was, it wasn't enough to boost her self-esteem. Very teen.
>
> *** I would agree. Cho does have a certain level of self-esteem,
as she is obviously
> smart, athletic, and popular. However, JK nicely highlighted the
Achilles heel of many
> teenagers. The friend of the opposite sex. I found Cho's
insecurity when it came to
> the friendship between Harry and Hermione very realistic for this
age group (and it
> certainly creeps up on adults too). Although I think H/H are just
friends, I can see
> how a 16 year-old who doesn't see their interactions on a regular
basis might feel
> insecure about the nature of the H/H relationship.
>
>
> > > Hermione - I adore Hermione but I couldn't relate to her then
and
> > > can't relate to her so much now. I don't think any of my
friends
> > were both smart and incredibly confident the way Hermione is.
Most
> > of my friends worked extremely hard at school but often struggled
> > with boys, worrying far more than Hermione seems to. Teen girls
can
> > sit and analyze *every single* movement made by the cute boy. I
know
> > I did that endlessly, but Hermione seems not to be too bothered
by
> > what the boys think of her. If she is bothered, she puts on the
best
> > act I've ever seen. If I was in her position and Ron spoke to
me
> > before and after the Yule Ball the way he did, I would have
broken
> > down and cried all night. Hermione seems to shrug it off.
>
> I would say I was very similar to Hermione in high school--driven
academically and
> not overly emotional or concerned when it came to boys. However,
it was still
> possible for boy situations to get to me, even if I didn't spend
endless time on the
> phone with my friends analyzing everything a boy did. I would have
to disagree that
> Hermioine just "shrugs off" the Yule balle affair with Ron. Their
argument was
> definitely heated from both sides. We don't know what Hermione did
in the privacy of
> her own room, so she could've very well had a bit of a cry. My
thought on Hermione
> is that she doesn't daily get caught up in the guy stuff and go
giggling about (like,
> Lavendar and Parvati); however, this does not make her devoid of
emotion interest or
> emotion when it comes to boys. She simply chooses to have an air
of cool and calm,
> but she does occasioanally let her guard down and show some boy-
related
> frustration (Yule Ball, Ron being clueless about girls, etc). Most
15 year-old girls
> aren't like this, but I can certainly relate.
>
> Darrin:
> > So, that's why I think she shrugged off Ron's tirade as
> > easily as she did. And besides, she was right. Ron was being
really
> > unreasonable -- you snooze, you lose, pal -- and our girl
Hermione is
> > very confident when she knows she's right.
>
> Oh she knows she's right, but I still don't think that made it any
easier. Regardless of
> whether she has feelings for Ron or Harry, Hermione's had to have
been hurt that
> neither one (particularly the one she likes) thought to ask her to
the ball until so late
> in the game. Being an afterthought, especially to someone you
like, is certainly no
> picnic for anyone, even if you already have a date. Publicly, you
hold your chin high;
> privately, you have a little cry.
>
> Jenny:
> > > Ginny - CoS and OoP Ginny are vastly different, even though I
like
> > > Ginny in both books. Do 14 year olds really develop confidence
so
> > > quickly? That I don't remember.
> Darrin:
> > Ginny reminds me of 14-year-olds at my school that somehow ALWAYS
> > seemed to be dating guys at least three years older than them. I
need
> > to set up a clock to determine when that girl is legal.
>
> I think Ginny's confidence really started to build during GoF.
Sure, we really didn't
> see this too much, but we did see subtle hints of the Ginny to
come. As much as I
> hate to say it, perhaps she gathered some (not all of her)
confidence from dating a
> boy. Realizing that even if one boy doesn't see you the way you
want him to that
> doesn't rule out the rest of the male population is a great lesson
to learn. I would
> agree with Darrin that Ginny reminds me of those girls who were
always dating older
> guys in high school.
>
> Note to Darrin: Technically Ginny is already legal in the "real
world." Of course, she
> is still underage in canon and doesn't actually exist in the "real
world," but if adult
> women can drool over Harry, Ron, etc. you should be able to do the
same with Ginny.
> No double standard here.
>
> Rachel
> I love the 80s moment: "George Michael? Gay? Surely you jest."
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