[HPforGrownups] Re: OOP: Sirius thoughts ...

[Scott Santangelo]

No: HPFGUIDX 67373

Whoa now! Sirius had a clear sense of purpose, and it was Harry's care, safety and future. In POA, when he asks if Harry would like to live with him, he lights up. That's Sirius' purpose, and I for one bought into that happy dream. Unfortunately, it's not to be. Of course, the ongoing struggle with Voldy was another purpose to which he dedicated his energies, and that would have led to his vindication with the MoM, too. Oh, well . . .

kiricat2001 <Zarleycat at aol.com> wrote:--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> 
>  We've all noticed that Hogwarts, though as magical as ever, 
> wasn't very much fun in Book 5.  What we and Harry discovered 
> is that what he loves about Hogwarts is  acceptance,  having 
> friends and a sense of purpose. Without those, the magical 
> world is just Privet Drive with broomsticks.   Sirius never had a 
> sense of purpose beyond catching up with Peter and fighting 
> Voldemort. 

That may very well be true, but I think you could cut the man maybe 
an inch of slack in that he's spent most of the past 14 years in 
isolation from other humans. He hasn't had much of a chance to 
reconnect to wizard life outside of the narrow focus of concentrating 
on Voldemort and Peter.  But, we'll never know as that story arc has 
been cut.

Just as he couldn't settle between being a human 
> being or a dog, he couldn't settle on his role with Harry or figure 
> out what to do with himself if he couldn't fight Voldemort 
directly.  

What do you mean about not being able to settle between being a human 
or a dog?  I don't recall Sirius having that battle with himself.  

And, yes, he was having to adjust to the fact that Harry is not the 
reinacrnation of James, and he didn't seem to have a useful outlet in 
the fight against Voldemort.  Which is exactly the point of people 
saying that this is why they regret this character death.  They would 
have liked to see these issues dealt with going forward, as part of 
Harry's backstory.  You seem to be saying that since these issues had 
not been laid to rest already, thus making Sirius a more useful, 
functional member of the team, that his character was set in stone, 
there was nothing else JKR could have done with him without spending 
too much time on Sirius and not enough time on Harry, so what else is 
there to do but kill him off?

> Sirius's death says that organizing your life around the fight 
> against evil isn't enough, or at least it won't be if you're only 
> willing to fight it with wands. Even in the magical world, some 
> evils are better met with   kindness--and elbow grease.

Sirius' death also says that the combined actions of lots of people 
sometimes cause messes in which people get hurt or die.  I know from 
reading some of your other posts that you blame Sirius for his own 
death because of his particular character flaws. That puts a nice, 
neat framwork about things, but none of us, even wizards, live and 
act in a vaccuum.  Our flaws and strengths influence us for good and 
bad, but sometimes circumstances are bigger than we are.

Marianne




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