[HPforGrownups]: "ARGH!"/Truth &Justice

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 67846

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, silmariel <silmariel at t...> wrote:
> 
> "ARGH!" List
> 
>  bboy_mn:
> 
> << When Umbridge caught the D.A.'s coming out of the room and 
> brought Harry to Dumbledore's office where she presented the list of
>  names of Dumbledore's Army as evidents, I couldn't understand why 
> they didn't use the most obvious explaination to discredit that 
> piece of evidence.>>


> 
> ... The List was not an incriminating proof. It was written and 
> signed two days  before it was illegal to do it, so it wasn't proof 
> of anything. It was found in the room, and? It is not a crime having
> a written list of people with you. 


bboy_mn:

Excellent point, but Umbridge and Fudge don't seem to be adhering to
the letter of the law, they are, like many corrupt rulers, twisting
the law through interpretation and legislation to suit their own
self-serving ends. Certainly, no public law would allow student to
write line in their own blood. And no active public would allow the
many education decrees to be past uncontested, but a complacent public
is the worst enemy of liberty. 

I think the best line of defense would have been for Dumbledore to try
your idea first and for Harry to try my idea second.


> 
> TRUTH AND JUSTICE
> 
> bboy_mn:
> <<It is up to the court to prove you guilty, ... or at least that is
> the theoretical principle behind democratic justice. The wizard
> world does have a Wizards Chart or Rights, ....>>


>  
> But DD administered Veritaserum to Barty Crouch Jr.,  and he is the 
> good one. ...edited...
> 
> silmariel

bboy_mn:

There is a big difference; Dumbledore is a private person acting on
his own, whereas Fudge is a government offical supposedly acting in
the public interest, or at least acting as an offical public
representative.

Plus, Dumbledore based his conclusion on a lot of information; events
that had happened during the year, and he compared Harry's account
with Crouch Jr.'s account and they fit. So he is not relying on Truth
Serum alone. 

Plus, Dumbledore isn't gathering evidence for a trial. I think he
wants to know what happened to Harry, and what's happening with
Voldemort. He is more interested in knowledge that will let him
prepare for Voldemort's return than he is in what will and will not
hold up in court.

Just thought.

bboy_mn