Psychology, Blood and a Theory
koinonia02
Koinonia2 at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 7 18:04:07 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 68084
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, B Arrowsmith
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> Snape doesn't like anybody. He respects Dumbledore for what he is,
but
> like? Very doubtful. He hates Harry. So why is Snape aiding Harry
and
> the Order? There can be only one reason - he hates Voldemort
more.<<<snip>>>>
Dumbledore doesn't have a hold on
> Snape, nor has he persuaded him through reason to join the Order;
DD
> knows and understands that hate and revenge are Snapes driving
forces
> and that he hates Voldemort with an intensity that is overpowering.
<<<snip>>>
> And I think we have been given a clue in OoP.
<<<snip>>> The really important
> bit are the flashes that Harry gets from Snapes memory direct:-
>
> The shivering child, the adults shouting, the teenager, the youth.
In
> none of them is Snape positively identified. The text states that
Harry
> is 'sure that he has broken into Snape's memories, that he had
just
> seen scenes from Snape's childhood......' But Harry has been wrong
> before. Nowhere does Harry (or JKR) positively identify any of the
> persons as Snape, even though Harry does so in the pensieve
passage.
>
> I recall that in an interview, JKR was asked if any of the
Hogwarts
> staff were married. She said yes, but that would come out later.
>
> I think that in those memories, Snape was not the shivering child,
but
> the shouting man. I think we've just seen Snape's family and that
> something happened to them to make Snape hate Voldie more than
> anything else in the whole wide world. It is a motivation I can
believe
> in.
I've always felt that Dumbledore and Snape sort of liked each other
but now I'm not so sure. Respect? Probably. So much revolves around
Dumbledore trusting Snape. Plus Dumbledore was the one who invited
Snape to teach at Hogwarts. The problem is we still have too many
puzzle pieces missing but I think you have picked up on some good
points. Snape does seem to hate Harry and I have a hard time
believing the only reason for that hate is because Harry reminds
Snape of James. There has to be something else. There is the idea
that Snape must have done something to earn D's trust. That's
possible. Yet maybe it is more along the lines of what you hint at.
Snape might want revenge for something "OR" Snape might have
something to gain from the defeat of Voldemort and Dumbledore knows
that. It isn't so much that Dumbledore sees a reformed DE as
Dumbledore knows what is driving Snape and that is what D. is placing
his bet on. Snape may have some yet unknown talent that Dumbledore
can use to help defeat Voldemort and Snape will join that effort for
purely selfish reasons. Or it could just be that Snape has suffered
greatly at the hands of Voldemort and he is driven by revenge. Or
maybe Snape truly has turned from his DE days. BUT, I think there is
something to the interview with JKR concerning the married staff at
Hogwarts and I do think it involves Snape. Which members of the staff
do we truly care about and would it really matter if they were/are
married? I can only think of three and that would be Dumbledore,
McGonagall, and Snape. I'm convinced that Snape and love go hand and
hand but it isn't over Lily. It had to be over some person he
loved/loves and lost. Whether this person is deceased or just out of
the picture for now I can't begin to guess. There is something that
motivates Snape and I don't think we have a clear picture of that yet.
I do believe we are seeing Snape as a small child in the Pensieve. We
are being shown some of what Snape experienced as a child. We are
finally getting a glimpse of Snape's past. These are Snape's
childhood memories. I believe if Snape were the man yelling at the
woman Harry would have recognized him immediately but he didn't. I
believe the Pensieve and the Occlumency lessons are a way for us to
see some of the things Snape has endured in his life.
No apologies for thinking Snape is the most interesting character in
the books,
"K"
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