Sirius Changed Man? Was MadEye & Malfoy - James & Snape

[HunterGreen]

No: HPFGUIDX 68336

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Rebecca Stephens 
> <rsteph1981 at y...> wrote:
> 
> >Because he
> > terrorized the fat lady.  

"katiecannon2000": 

> This is so key.  Sirius shows up on PoA and his actions, even when 
> trying to save HP, are *still* those of a bully.  

Rebecca ("HunterGreen"):
I think a lot of that may have to do with the fact that he was in 
prison for TWELVE YEARS right before this happens, AND we can 
probably assume that he hasn't even had a conversation with anyone in 
MONTHS. Obviously Sirius--having attended Hogwarts--would KNOW that 
he can't get into Gryffindor without the password. He acts sort of 
strangely throughout PoA-in the shreiking shack he nearly lets Harry 
kill him rather than bother explaning himself. Its hard to believe 
that he had NO emotional problems from being in a horrible jail for 
twelve years, especially being cast in there right after James and 
Lily were killed and it was half-his fault (meaning, I doubt he had 
time to even begin to deal with his emotions over his best friends 
being murdered before he was sent off to relieve the worst moments of 
his life over and over again). I was less disturbed by the attack on 
the fat lady and more on the fact that he drags poor Ron in the 
passageway with him and breaks his leg in the process.

katiecannon2000:
We forget this when 
> reading GoF--my own personal belief is that JKR went overboard 
> in "Sirius is a logical, protective parent/good guy" and had to 
sort 
> of "bad him back up" in OoP for most folks to be able to cope with 
> his death (or whatever it was). 


Rebecca: 
That's an interesting point. Although it didn't make it any easier 
for ME to deal with his death, I do agree that he's acting much 
differently in OoP than in GoF. Maybe just seeing more of him had 
this effect--in GoB we only see him in letters, briefly through the 
fire, or when he's hiding out in Hogsmead. The letters and the fire 
are too brief for him to really get into things with Harry and he's 
definitely out of his element when he's living in a cave eating rats 
and doing so only because he's VERY worried about Harry. He did seem 
different in OoP, but he seemed more bitter and bored than anything 
else, not necessarily 'bad'. 


katiecannon2000:
In PoA, honestly, the thing for him 
> to have done would be to get word to DD that he needed to talk to 
him 
> (of *all* the characters, ole forgivin' DD would've listened and 
not 
> turned him in) instead of trying to break into Griffyndor rooms.

But on the other hand, it seemed through much of the book his goal 
WASN'T to clear his name, but was to kill Peter. When he meets up 
with Harry/Ron/Hermione in the shrieking shack, he doesn't even START 
to explain, he's completely distracted by how much he wants to get 
his hands on Scabbers. Even when Lupin shows up and is willing to 
explain what he knows of everything Sirius specifically says "...make 
it quick, I want to commit the murder I was imprisoned for..." 
Obviously a live Peter would be better evidence that Sirius was 
innocent versis than a *recently* dead Peter. It seems like he didn't 
really think that far beyond killing Peter in his whole plan, he 
doesn't start to consider Harry (beyond sending him the firebolt and 
sneaking a few peeks at him) until AFTER its decided to let Peter 
live. 
  

katiecanon2000:
> Then in Goblet, he's this wise "contact me if anything is odd" be-
> cautious-please parental figure.  She almost over-emphasized his 
> reckless, who-gives-a-toot attitude in OoP to make us forget how 
> logical he was in GoF....or so I think.

Rebecca:
It might have just been because he was BORED in OoP, like Hermione 
(was it Hermione?) pointed out, it was like he was trying to live 
through Harry. 


-Rebecca