Cool!Ginny; Ginny a Marked Woman?
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Jul 10 14:35:03 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 69083
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pennylin"
<pennylin at s...> wrote:
> Yes, Rachel makes the same basic "Harry's POV" point, but
the problem with that from my perspective is that all this
coolness isn't so much *noticed by* Harry as much as it is *told
to* Harry through other characters. We don't see Harry
interacting with Ginny as much as we see Harry (and the
readers) having these tidbits of Ginny thrown at us. So, the
characterization still seems like cheating to me. And, I just found
the whole "oh, I can make Ginny into anything I want because
Harry never noticed her in the previous 4 books" line to be lame.
Even without making Ginny into a fully developed character in
earlier books we could have been given some *hints* about her.
Rowling supposedly has all the characters fully worked out in
her notes .......so it shouldn't have been hard to throw in a little
reference to Fred and George having noticed that Ginny plays
Quidditch alot during the summers, unbeknownst to their
parents. Or something. <<
Well then, Harry would know that she's interested in Quidditch,
and he's not supposed to. And the whole point was that Fred and
George didn't know she'd been stealing their brooms. She's
smart enough to trick them.
I disagree that there's *no* hint that Ginny's a Quidditch fan.
How about the fact that Ginny was so excited to be at the World
Cup that she stayed up late afterwards listening to her family
discuss the game over and over again, even though she was so
tired she eventually fell asleep with her nose in her cocoa? If she
were just bored, wouldn't she have gone to bed, or at any rate
laid her head down on the table in a more comfortable position?
Plus that she went to the QWC in the first place instead of
shopping with Mom. Hey, if *I* were offered the choice between
the Quidditch World Cup and going shopping in Diagon
Alley, (would it were so!) I know where you'd find *me* <g>
Besides, with all the surprises Hermione gets to spring on us, I
think Ginny's entitled to at least one. Her magical prowess isn't
such a stretch either. She was able to enchant a singing
greeting card in her second year and it kept going for quite a long
time. Harry had to pin it under a bowl of fruit to make it shut up,
but we hear that spells of that sort wear off very quickly.
Ginny's sense of humor and her courage are already well
attested to, at least plent of us have been saying that she had
them and citing chapter and verse long before OOP. Full-fledged
Feisty!Ginny may be a fanon creation, but it had to come from
somewhere...after all if there's really no basis for a feisty Ginny
in canon, why isn't fanon Ginny a space-cadet or a klutz?
Pippin
who thinks the significance of the Sirius-Ginny link is that
Voldemort will indeed try to manipulate Harry by threatening
Ginny. But Harry will remember the link and not fall for it a
second time.
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