Cool!Ginny; Ginny a Marked Woman? (SHIP)
pennylin
pennylin at swbell.net
Fri Jul 11 02:18:39 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 69286
Hi --
I said, in part: <<<<Even without making Ginny into a fully developed character in earlier books we could have been given some *hints* about her. Rowling supposedly has all the characters fully worked out in
her notes .......so it shouldn't have been hard to throw in a little
reference to Fred and George having noticed that Ginny plays
Quidditch alot during the summers, unbeknownst to their
parents. Or something.>>>>>>>>>>>
Pippin replied:
<<<<<<<Well then, Harry would know that she's interested in Quidditch,
and he's not supposed to. And the whole point was that Fred and
George didn't know she'd been stealing their brooms. She's
smart enough to trick them.>>>>>>>>>>>>
My first question is: why is Harry "not supposed to know" that Ginny is interested in Quidditch? What purpose could that serve? And, yes, I gave a bit of a poor example; I do understand the point was that she was smart enough to trick the prankster brothers. My primary point though was that Ginny could have been given more development than she was, without too much trouble. Little factoids or hints could easily have been dropped in (JKR is no slouch at this).
<<<<I disagree that there's *no* hint that Ginny's a Quidditch fan.
How about the fact that Ginny was so excited to be at the World
Cup that she stayed up late afterwards listening to her family
discuss the game over and over again, even though she was so
tired she eventually fell asleep with her nose in her cocoa? If she
were just bored, wouldn't she have gone to bed, or at any rate
laid her head down on the table in a more comfortable position?
Plus that she went to the QWC in the first place instead of
shopping with Mom. Hey, if *I* were offered the choice between
the Quidditch World Cup and going shopping in Diagon
Alley, (would it were so!) I know where you'd find *me* <g>>>>>>>>
It's not the fact that Ginny is a Quidditch *fan* that surprised me. That *wasn't* a surprise. She comes from a Quidditch-mad family, after all. What was a surprise was that she was a Quidditch *player* and that she was *good* at it. I'm a huge football fan, but I don't *play* football.
Although, in honesty, I must say that I wouldn't have taken away that Ginny is a Quidditch fan by virtue of her staying up late talking to her family after the QWC. She's 13/14 then; she wouldn't want go *to bed* and miss all the action. Perish the thought. No, the Quidditch fan business is a given in my mind. I'd be surprised if she wasn't a fan. A player, a good player, and a seeker? Yeah, those are all surprises and I don't see any textual backup for where we as readers could have possibly guessed that. OTOH, it's a fair point that Fanon!Ginny had to come from somewhere, and there are at least several fanfics out there that I'm familiar with that feature Ginny as a star Seeker. I just frankly dismissed it as wishful thinking on the part of H/G shippers and vastly OOC. Oh well. <g>
<<<<<Besides, with all the surprises Hermione gets to spring on us, I
think Ginny's entitled to at least one.>>>>>>>
What surprises from Hermione? She's been a super-talented brainiac from the beginning. ?????
<<<<<<<<Full-fledged Feisty!Ginny may be a fanon creation, but it had to come from somewhere...after all if there's really no basis for a feisty Ginny in canon, why isn't fanon Ginny a space-cadet or a klutz?>>>>>
Okay, but by the same logic, witty, suave and redeemed!Draco comes from somewhere in canon too, then. Right? <g>
<<<<<<<Pippin
who thinks the significance of the Sirius-Ginny link is that
Voldemort will indeed try to manipulate Harry by threatening
Ginny. But Harry will remember the link and not fall for it a
second time.>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Nah, that'd be boring, since Voldie already targeted Ginny once. But, Ginny might herself follow the path of Sirius and do something reckless and .....irreversible.
Shifting away from Ginny, D.G. commented:
<<<<<<<I was honestly expecting Hermione to go to her and try to explain Harry's behavior to her (since she knows Harry so well), just as she
explained hers to Harry. 'T'would have been a good, righteous,
friendly thing to do [I'd have done it, had the genders been
reversed]. Unless, of course, there IS after all a Hermione/Harry
pairing in our future...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yes, Hermione seems all too delighted to tell Harry what he did wrong after-the-fact, and given all her observations of Cho, one would think that she might have done just that (walk up and tell Cho that she, Hermione, has no romantic interest in Harry, and explain Harry's inexperience with dating matters). But, she didn't. Hmmm. Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm. I wonder. Yep, fits in pretty well with my H/H reading of the text. :--)
Let's see. Erika already covered the subject of Harry's protectiveness of Hermione in OoP quite well, so I'll skip that one. ::::applause for Erika:::::::
Greatlit2003 pondered:
<<<<<<Unrelated pondering: Doesn't Ron seem too immature for Hermione? Can anyone picture them together?>>>>>>>>
Yes, and no, respectively. However, my "no, I can't picture them together," doesn't relate specifically to Ron's immaturity, which I assume is only a temporary state. I think they are fundamentally incompatible though.
Penny
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